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Re: Question of replacement value?
From: LarryT (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:15:00 -0800 (PST)
Hi Gang -- well, my wife knows I'm priceless ;-) (does that mean value-less?) so that's out of the question (gee, I hope that's right) - but just the same 
I'll avoid and ghetto's.
so I would like to know the mental process of arriving at a offer for whatever 
we might be buying.
For instance, I bought our '91 300D 2.5T Mercedes about 3 yrs ago when it had 99k miles on it. I looked for a local 300D and found one that had a asking price of $12k. I knew that was too much and mentioned we were leaving in 2 days to go to NJ and pickup a new (to us) '91 300D that I won on eBay for $7800. The eBayer was a dealer and knew I might backout - anyway, we looked at the local car (w/asking price of $12K) and tested it - I told the salesman we were ready to buy and would be buying in the next few days for $7800 + expenses to get us there and back (we're in Va).
I really liked this car but $8K was too much and offered $8k - a comparable amount compared to the one we thought we would be buying. He said, OK and it's been an awesome car - it's like having a new Mercedes - perfect in every detail.
That's how I got to a "offer price" - if I wanted to buy a 08 MB E320 Bluetec (the diesel) I don't know what I would offer. Assuming it has normal mileage = ~24K Mi. - and is in perfect condition I'd look at eBay completed sales and Autotrader, the local paper and dealerships. Like ebay 170436581425 has a "Buy it Now" of $37,900. Should I drop a check for $30K? $25? - How do I define that "write a check for" value? 

Thanks guys -

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From: <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 12:09 PM
To: "LarryT" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>; "Ferrari Listers" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> 
Subject: Question of replacement value?


Larry;
I am not sure of your question, are you asking how to evaluate your wifes replacement or is it that she will be replacing you and you are not sure what the value of that is......or was this a car question 
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Phil
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---- LarryT <l02turner [at] comcast.net> wrote:

I may have missed this but how does one arrive at the Clyde price?  Is it
the price they are advertising at other locations - web, dealers in other
cities, FML (assuming it's a Ferrari), etc?

Or does one take 20% off the asking price?
Sorry if this has been discussed and I missed it. I'm not in the market at 
the moment but one of these days my wife will need a replacement.

Thx
LarryT

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From: "clyde romero" <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:06 AM
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] After-action report on 2007 F430
> Listen you have to buy cars like these "like a drug deal" you go in > with 
> cash!
> Never an offer, the only offer you should get is from a women!
> Go rent some Miami Vice CDs' its all there.
> When I bought my TR they said the same shit and the 512 was still hot > and 
> they were making them and FML had dozens of them listed.
> But FAF wanted this red thing gone from there lot!
> I told him that I fly for a smile and whats $100 in phone calls if I > plan 
> to
> buy a $125K car!
> I left for a 4 trip day on Monday, told them I was going to LAX, MIA > and > SFO(all of this was a lie, I wasn't going to any of these cities but > they > had Ferrari dealerships there and they knew it) and then home and I > would 
> find a car there at my price, buy Wednesday my phone was on FIRE!
>
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> CLYDE
>
> Capt. Clyde Romero Jr.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: LS [mailto:lashdeep [at] yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:53 AM
> To: Clyde
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] After-action report on 2007 F430
>
> Another key is to mention that this approach is only bulletproof with
> *depreciating* cars.
>
> The Clyde operation may have less than typical results with a hot
> collector
> car.
>
> Years, ago, I was looking at a vintage Shelby. I found one and the > buyer 
> was
> asking $81k. I asked him what his full name was and when he could show > it. 
>
> I had a cashier's check from a local bank made out for $76k in his > name. 
> No
> stories, no BS, no discussion of whether I was serious or not. When it
> came
> time to negotiate, I gave him the check...then excused myself from the
> garage so he and his buddy could discuss, savor and sweat with the > check 
> in
> their hands.
>
> I came back in about 10 mins later and he refused, returning the check. > I > was shocked and thanked him. He sold the car 3 days later for full > price 
> since they are desirable.
>
> Chances are that an F430 will never qualify for this type of situation.
>
> LS
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> ________________________________
> From: Michael James <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>
> To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Tue, February 2, 2010 9:29:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] After-action report on 2007 F430
>
>
> The CLYDE negotiaton technique hinges on one key point that Jim's
> experience
> misses.
>
> You don't walk in the door with an OFFER.
>
> You walk in the door with a CHECK.
>
> Two totally-different situations, the latter forces the
> dealership/salesman
> to deeply consider the wise adage: "A bird in the hand is worth two in > the > bush". The latter also washes-away any and all doubt about one's > ability 
> to
> pay, or obtain financing. Lots of people talk the talk, after all. > I'm > more-inclined to believe that had Jim laid a check on the hood of the > car, > the salesman would have worked to find a way to cash that check, not > B.S. 
> Jim to write a new one.  Just my 0.02 cents.
>
> M
>
>
> --- On Tue, 2/2/10, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] After-action report on 2007 F430
>>To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
>>Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>>Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 9:05 AM
>>
>>
>>I bet they'll call you in 30 days to negotiate...
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----
>>From: Jim Conforti <lndshrk [at] xmission.com>
>>To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
>>Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>>Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 9:22:03 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] After-action report on 2007 F430
>>
>>Well,
>>
>>Went in and offered them what I thought was a fair offer.
>>
>>(effectively $140k, likely too much - but still)
>>
>>Their response was to come down from $159.9 to $157k.
>>
>>LOL
>>
>>I feel I have now done my best to "keep it in state".
>>
>>If anyone knows of any good (no stories, well-serviced) F430's - and
>>someone actually wants to SELL it to a bonafide buyer - please think of
>>me.
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