Re: Latest FORZA - good issue
From: Michael James (cavallino_rapanteyahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:34:46 -0700 (PDT)
Hmmm....that 'might' be about right - there is a lot of labor involved with Head removal if the engine isn't already out of the car.  My 4V heads were around $7,000 for all the valves and machine-shop work.  But that was AFTER the engine was pulled, stripped, and heads removed.  The 4V heads can be a royal nightmare if they don't want to come off - I got major-lucky, my rear heads practically fell off the block while my front heads only needed mild pursuasion with a rubber mallet.
 
An engine punch-out, with custom heads, pistons, crank, and cylinders will EASILY run north of $35,000.
 
M


--- On Tue, 3/16/10, Stephen Sherman <sherman [at] wildblue.net> wrote:

From: Stephen Sherman <sherman [at] wildblue.net>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Latest FORZA - good issue
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 2:10 PM

The one article that probably seemed most interesting was the 308 project....wonder how much that would cost??
 
I got a quote for replaceing the sodium exhaust valves ($15,000.00) that included all the valves(intake and eahaust, valve seats, guides, related  head work and labor to remove engine (est 100 hours labor). The shop did not reccommend doing the job, they have only seen 1 dropped valve and the car 150 miles on it.
 
I know it is not the same, but the cost would be MUCH MORE.
 
Stephen 
----- Original Message -----
From: LS
To: Stephen
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Latest FORZA - good issue

I've never considered subscribing to Forza, but this post could change that...is it consistent across months?


From: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 1:08:00 PM
Subject: [Ferrari] Latest FORZA - good issue

I've kept up the subscription over the years out of habit and have been somewhat bored by the articles but this month seems like a throwback to the old days.

Highlights with paraphrased summaries:

1) 308 QV motor bored out to 3.5 liters - 303 hp/259-lb-ft of torque (this was the dyno figure, although they didn't say RWHP exactly like that)

Summary: "Power felt wonderful...faster than a 348, almost as fast a 355. Only issue was the handling deficiencies were more pronounced with the stock suspension, but making tweaks in this area should eleviate the problem".

2) 275 GTB/4 vs 365 GTS/4 Daytona Spyder (both yellow/black)

Summary: "Daytona is far more powerful and handles better but the 275 is lighter and more communicative. I really like the daytona but the 275 feels more fun to drive, and the owner agrees with me."

3) Major service on a 360 - details of the work done at Norwood

4) History of Ferrari transmissions used in Formula 1 - includes the genesis of the paddle shift semiautomatic transmission....it was originally conceived to deal with the abnormalities of the turbocharged power delivery of the '80s cars, not so much a way to produce lightning fast shifts.

5) NART Revisited - show at Saratoga Springs highlights the gorgeous cars from the NART era

6) Market Update - Michael Sheehan goes over the market for the three major eras (Enzo era up to the fiat purchase, the Fiat era up to early '90s, and the Montezemelo era since then)

7) Mansory 599 - Not a huge fan of this machine although an 800 hp supercharged 6.0 liter V12 deserves a read regardless....355 rear tires to boot!

And the usual F1 talk as well.

The one article that probably seemed most interesting was the 308 project....wonder how much that would cost??

Fellippe


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