Ferrari Mailing List: Re: 512BBRR

[Doug and Terri Anderson (dnt]

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I might suggest finding a shop who will x-ray the rods and bolts - then again - if it isn't a race engine - - -

why?

DOUG

 

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From: Peter Pless

To: DOUG

Cc: 'The FerrariList'

Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 4:12 PM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 512BBRR

Well clearly I didnât mean a rebuild for a completely wasted engine. Maybe I should have called what I had done a ârefreshâ then?

 

From: Michael James [mailto:cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, 16 August 2010 11:04 PM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 512BBRR

 

Yup - and Labor is alittle less than 1/3 of the total cost...the rest is parts and machine-shop work.  Did you Magnaflux everyting?  Everything passed?  Who made your parts?  Then again, I have NIKASIL liners, perhaps you don't - they're not really re-usable, and you can't hone them.  When they're toast, you're looking for Mahle-Germany's phone number. 

 

True story with Caribou: My mechanic takes 70 measurements to determine the suitabiltiy of a Crankshaft before he'll put it back in a car - Caribou took TWO measurements to determine that they had a 'good, used' crankshaft to sell me when mine failed Magnaflux testing.  A OEM Crank will cost you $2,300 or more (IF you can find one).  Caribou offered one they said was 'perfect' for $1,000.  They wouldn't guarantee it - my Mechanic was VERY leery of 'two measurements', so we twisted their arm to guarantee the crank. 

 

What we got in the mail was, uh, 'less' than perfect.  But better than others, so we moved forward.  There was dirt/grit in the donor-car's oil, resulting in scratches on the Crank lobes that wouldn't polish-out.  The crank did pass Magnaflux, but we did end-up honing the Crank, and had to buy Vanderwall First-Oversize bearings ($hundreds MORE than standard-size bearings) to get consistency across all surfaces.  If Caribou is 'the-shiznit' when it comes to engine-building, why didn't they notice the scratches on the Crank lobes they sold me???  Yea, I wonder....

 

M

--- On Mon, 8/16/10, Peter Pless <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au> wrote:

From: Peter Pless <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 512BBRR
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 8:21 AM

Really?? I had one done 2 years ago for $15kausâ.for everythingâpistons, valves, rings, all bearings.

 

From: Michael James [mailto:cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, 16 August 2010 10:12 PM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 512BBRR

 

Those numbers have to be low - Boxer-12 engine parts, even the fabricated kind, are near-double what 308 parts go for these days.  $30K buys you a 308 engine rebuild now, BTW.  And that's with aftermarket (less expensive than factory) pistons for more compression, as this Boxer has.  Add porting/polishing the heads, flow-bench work, custom sodium valves, etc. that the 308-rebuild won't get.....More like $50K+ for the engine alone.  Caribou isn't 'cheap labor', which is why they mentioned that this was done with a blank check and little restraint.

 

M

--- On Sun, 8/15/10, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 512BBRR
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 7:53 PM

Not sure, but I'd estimate this build up to be in the region of $50k including parts and labor.

The engine work must've been $30k at least...not cheap to mod Ferrari.

100bhp over stock is legit though.

LS

 

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From: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 1:56:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 512BBRR

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:41 AM, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

http://www.carobu.com/html/project_cars.html

Just in case anyone wanted to talk Ferrari today...

The BB in the link above looks positively delicious.

 

Indeed it very well does!!

Thanks Lashdeep for starting my sunday off right....

Question....any idea how much this project cost???

Having seen a ghetto 512BB in person and being somewhat impressed I could only imagine the street presence of this monster...

FG

 

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