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I had 79 Porsche 928 and it had a Japanease air
pump, no not for the Tires, the engine.
Stephen
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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 5:22
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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] SAY IT AIN'T
SO
I think these days, there is lots of corporate sharing and
selling going on, again, much to that advantage of the average consumer.
Ferrari have a lot of Germany fuel injection systems on them, and I'm sure
more than half the Porsches that roll off the line, do so on Italian
rubber.
A friend of mine drove a Countach for a time, as daily
transportation. He didn't really mention having any kind of mechanical
problems outside of what most other cars experience, but he did say, the a/c
was crap, and with that HUGE front windshield, made life pretty miserable
driving mid summer!
The thing with German engineers, even when they do
find a problem, they are most likely to tell you it's your fault. Don't
believe me; buy an old 911 and blow up the air box, or drop a chain tensioner,
and see what they have to say about it. "We have a new improved version
to sell you, but their was nothing wrong with the old version. It failed
because you didn't drive it properly!!". hee hee.
As for the "Enzo
philosophy", wasn't that to sell crap road cars for lots of money, to pay for
the F1 effort? ;-) lol
Ed
911SC
On 12 November 2010 17:42, dale sailors <sailorsdaleedward [at] yahoo.com>
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Hello.
Please note I am not advocating VW acquire any part of
Ferrari from Fiat
or Alfa Romeo or Maserati either. I was commenting
on the magazine article referenced in another
post.
I
also am not stating an opinion regarding Maserati's recent
business history;
I just was more interested in Maserati when they
made pure racing cars.
I
occassionally read road tests of the "L" word cars but am
not particularly interested in any outside the Countertach
(styling) and first 3599 and 5000GTs.
I am not familar with their defects or remedies
applied to improve them.
However no manufacturer or car is perfect.
Witness
the recent number of issues with fires in 458s.
Whether "German" enginerring would have caught the cause
of the problem any ear;ier than Ferrari did is
unknown.
I
also do not advocate Ferrari needs German or any other
outside of Italy enginerring assistance.
What
I would like to see is a F1 team with Italian drivers and
more return to the Enzo Ferrari philosophy for F1 and
street car design.
Ciao
From:
Michael James <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: [Ferrari] SAY IT AIN'T SO
To: "dale sailors"
<sailorsdaleedward [at] yahoo.com>
Cc:
ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Date:
Friday, November 12, 2010, 3:22 PM
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Dale-
If it wasn't for the Ferrari infustion of
cash and Ferrari-engineered/built drivetrains,
Maserati would no longer exist. Who provided
Showroom floor-space for the Maser re-introduction
into the US? Whose cash STILL keeps the
company afloat? I rest my case.
Unlike Lambo, whose independence-demise could
be directly tagged to their quality issues,
Ferrari doesn't have that problem. Ferrari
could probably teach VW a thing or two about
quality these days - all the German brands are
suffering, limping-by on their 'prestige'.
Ferrari is not vulnerable, nor is there a need for
new ideas at Maranello that German engineering
would be welcome.
From:
dale sailors <sailorsdaleedward [at] yahoo.com>
Subject:
[Ferrari] SAY IT AIN'T SO
To: "Michael"
<Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc:
ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Date:
Thursday, November 11, 2010, 3:47 PM
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Hello,
VW buying FERRARI in part? Wow!
I've owned two VW Things (Type 181) and known
several advanced VW tuners of the air cooled
flat 4 motors. Interesting but quality conttrol
and finish was iffy. Parts get high quick too.
Just try pricing a set of side curtains whose
windows yellow in 24 months, a wiper motor or
anything for the 1973 gas heater! I had some
negative experience too with the early diesel
RABBIT (admittedly on Mexico sourced diesel
fuel). The Mexico made HORMIGA heavy truck based
on the RABBIT was durable if bog
slow though.
BUGGATI and LAMBORGHINI have survived VW
ownership fairly well it seems? I can't see
FERRARI and LAMBO with the same owner though. I
would even hate to see VW get MASERATI, the
"trident" has suffered enough under FIATand
FERRARI (of course my idea of MASERATI is a TYPO
60/61/6364/65 or
151 or 450S. FIAT should keep ALFA ROMEO
too, it complements FERRARI and MASERATI nicely.
If anything FIAT should dump CHRYSLER on
VW.
Just my ideas,
Dale |
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