Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Fw: Video: Ford Shelby Mustang GT500 dyno run goes boom in spectacular fashion

[Steve Jenkins (steve]

The only “race prepped” Mustangs I’ve driven on a racetrack are the GTs and Cobras that Bondurant used to have before they switched to GM products. While probably not truly “race prepped,” they were plenty fast to have fun with. I do recall thinking they felt heavy, tho.

 

SJ

 

From: Mike Fleischer [mailto:themightytoe [at] gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:33 PM
To: Steve Jenkins
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fw: Video: Ford Shelby Mustang GT500 dyno run goes boom in spectacular fashion

 

LOL

No seriously I have yet to be on track with a fast Mustang...  race prepped or otherwise.  Not many in the instructors groups anyhow, but even students groups they are few and far between.  Honestly the ones I have seen have not been spectacular in either their lap times or their reliability.  There was a guy with a tricked out orange Cobra R, and it was fast until he dumped his dry-sump's contents at the exit of Wagon wheel... 

Also I don't pay much attention to what they do in SCCA but I understand they are pretty dominant in their class...  That said, I am sure there are some good ones.  The November Automobile mag has a section on Mustang racing, I think its like 2 pages long and covered the new Boss 302R?  It also has the ten best Mustangs of all time...  An 84 Mustang SVO?  Honestly some of those cars are just dogs...  Solid rear axles belong on an oval :)  Probably why Ford has one in their logo as a reminder...

BR,
Mike

(And yes I am wearing my Nomex shorts today)

On 12/5/2010 10:31 AM, LS wrotes:

FG, Mike's been around for a while and done track events...he's messin' around!

Mustangs have a pretty ridiculous record in road course racing, so there's not much "knowledge" we're going to uncover on their abilities here. That's why we have our local public library and Google!

Just a tidbit since I'm on the brink of a full road course build on the '66 GT350. A local friend runs SVRA events, mostly along the east coast, in a '66 GT350. His best lap at Summit Pt is within 0.5 seconds of a professionally track prepped E46 M3 (which tied the GTS3 record at VIR).

Not bad...for a 45 yr old car with drum brakes and leaf springs! So, I guess you could say they're not too shabby on a road course.

LS

 

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From: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 11:19:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fw: Video: Ford Shelby Mustang GT500 dyno run goes boom in spectacular fashion

On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:38 AM, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

Mike, tough to hear the comments from someone who's never owned one setup for the road course correct?

They're excellent track cars and are ***stupendously*** reliable just like your Vette. The drivetrains are 100% bulletproof if maintained properly and not abused. Nothing ever breaks. Who knows what was going on with one in the video...judging from the visible mods, it was prob well over 600rwhp.

I know, I have three now and I've had four that I have religiously and surgically maintained and also totally thrashed on the road courses, ax events, road rallies, etc.

The 97 Cobra track car I have now, which is suprisingly stock, is *beautiful* on the track. Perfect 4 wheel drifts, ridiculous turn in, incredibly balanced. The brakes (Cobra R front Brembos) are among the best I've felt on any car.

"Never bring a kids toy to a grownup's track :)"

Hilarious...if a properly setup Mustang is not turning fast laps at a track, it's the driver's problem not the car.

LS

 

 

Mike,

As much as I'd like to share your GM bias here (hehe), I believe LS is right here...

Plus our buddy Nick had a late '80s /early '90s stang that he tracked quite a bit and did well with.

FG

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