And if I owned a BMW? A Porsche? a VW GTI? Or a Ferrari? Would
it still be hypocrisy to state the stang is in general a dog on a
road course?
Because I'd rather have any of those other cars on a race course,
and if a Vette was in the mix, and I didn't want to point anyone by,
make it a Z06 with ZR1 brakes... And I can state pretty confidently
anything shy of a full race car is going to have a hell of a time
finding me. No one would put money on your Mustang.
I'm not a marquee guy, I like a car that's fun to drive first and a
pretty face second... A mustang has never had either for me :) For
the money I'd rather have a Miata (or my GTI for that matter).
Mike
On 12/6/10 4:48 PM, Michael James wrote:
Aside from the fact that both cars aren't-exactly
made from the finest of materials or workmanship, I
wouldn't put both machines in the same category. Each
is designed, engineered, and sold to different market
segments. I'm of the opinion that the only Sports Car
ever made by the Ford Motor Company was the GT-40,
its latest variant, and that's it. Everything else is
just a family-hauling, mass-produced grocery-getter with
a big engine. Nothing wrong with that.....
No seriously I have yet to be on track with a
fast Mustang... race prepped or otherwise. Not
many in the instructors groups anyhow, but even
students groups they are few and far between.
Honestly the ones I have seen have not been
spectacular in either their lap times or their
reliability. There was a guy with a tricked out
orange Cobra R, and it was fast until he dumped
his dry-sump's contents at the exit of Wagon
wheel...
Also I don't pay much attention to what they do
in SCCA but I understand they are pretty
dominant in their class... That said, I am sure
there are some good ones. The November
Automobile mag has a section on Mustang racing,
I think its like 2 pages long and covered the
new Boss 302R? It also has the ten best
Mustangs of all time... An 84 Mustang SVO?
Honestly some of those cars are just dogs...
Solid rear axles belong on an oval :) Probably
why Ford has one in their logo as a reminder...
BR,
Mike
(And yes I am wearing my Nomex shorts today)
On 12/5/2010 10:31 AM, LS wrotes:
FG, Mike's been around for a while
and done track events...he's messin'
around!
Mustangs have a pretty ridiculous
record in road course racing, so
there's not much "knowledge" we're
going to uncover on their abilities
here. That's why we have our local
public library and Google!
Just a tidbit since I'm on the brink
of a full road course build on the '66
GT350. A local friend runs SVRA
events, mostly along the east coast,
in a '66 GT350. His best lap at Summit
Pt is within 0.5 seconds of a
professionally track prepped E46 M3
(which tied the GTS3 record at VIR).
Not bad...for a 45 yr old car with
drum brakes and leaf springs! So, I
guess you could say they're not too
shabby on a road course.
Mike, tough to hear the
comments from someone
who's never owned one
setup for the road course
correct?
They're excellent track
cars and are
***stupendously***
reliable just like your
Vette. The drivetrains are
100% bulletproof if
maintained properly and
not abused. Nothing ever
breaks. Who knows what was
going on with one in the
video...judging from the
visible mods, it was prob
well over 600rwhp.
I know, I have three now
and I've had four that I
have religiously and
surgically maintained and
also totally thrashed on
the road courses, ax
events, road rallies, etc.
The 97 Cobra track car I
have now, which is
suprisingly stock, is
*beautiful* on the track.
Perfect 4 wheel drifts,
ridiculous turn in,
incredibly balanced. The
brakes (Cobra R front
Brembos) are among the
best I've felt on any car.
"Never bring a kids toy
to a grownup's track :)"
Hilarious...if a properly
setup Mustang is not
turning fast laps at a
track, it's the driver's
problem not the car.
LS
Mike,
As much as I'd like to share your GM
bias here (hehe), I believe LS is
right here...
Plus our buddy Nick had a late '80s
/early '90s stang that he tracked
quite a bit and did well with.
FG
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