Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ferrari 250 GT SWB Chassis# 2639 , from bad to worst.

[Doug and Terri Anderson (dnt]

Ah ah ah – good one Scottie

 

Thus leaving Option 3b in effect

• Thereby leaving the door open that the REAL engine is out there running washing machines, wind mills, a coffee table or in another car all together (like Tony Nancy’s 32 Ford)?

 

When I was a photog during the CanAm series, I saw plenty of cars a) blow original engine; or, b) blow original tranny; or, c) destroy body work all of which was either replaced on the spot (I had Bruce McLarens RF fender from his massive lap 1, turn 1 shunt). 

 

So with 40 to 45 year old photographic evidence of such all in a racers day of racing and no intent of fraud was made – they needed to replace to go racing.  Now comes the future – year 2011.  And YESH ladies and Gentlemen – this totally restored (as if there was ANY original part left after two hard seasons of racing and untold years of secondary and tertiary racing market ) is an original unmolested Phutney Cheech CanAm 7 liter race car.

 

Old race cars are similar to my grandmothers knife she was so proud of – it had been in the family since she was a baby in Oslo Norway – other than the blade had been replaced three times and the handle only twice – this knife was nearly a hundred years old.

 

Like the joke about the concours where ALL 39 Series I, Series II and Series I to II Ferrari GTO’s were invited and 47 showed up.

 

Onward.

 

DOUG

Fortunately, Ferrari Classich reduced the fraudulent 47 number to 43.  *sigh*

 

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From: Scott Saidel [mailto:Ferrarisimo [at] comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 PM
To: Doug and Terri Anderson
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari 250 GT SWB Chassis# 2639 , from bad to worst.

 

Option 4:

 

Sometime during its life, this car acquired a non-number matching engine.  Some enterprising restorer / owner took out a set of number blocks and a hammer, and "fixed" the problem.

 

Just saying, it happens.

 

Scottie

 

 

On Oct 20, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Doug and Terri Anderson wrote:

Re-stamp?  Hmmmm – please unveil the “re-stamp” authorization steps to us hoi-poli.  Is it one of the following or another story all together?

 

• Car is missing the correct block and Ferrari casts up a new one, stamps correct # for the VIN and now the car has an engine? or

 

• Car has THE correct engine # for the VIN but it is a boat anchor.  Ferrari melts old engine down and recasts and re-stamps? or

 

• Car has correct family motor BUT incorrect serial number for the VIN.  Ferrari looks it over and agrees it is THE motor which comes from the correct family motor for the VIN and re-stamps (over-stamps) the engine # to make nice nice with the VIN and transaxle et all.  Thereby leaving the door open that the REAL engine is out there running washing machines, wind mills, a coffee table or in another car all together (like Tony Nancy’s 32 Ford)?

 

Some time ago I saw frame C001 which to me looked like C003 over stamp.  Tell me it ain’t so Joe.

 

DOUG

If I were collecting coins – and I had my well worn 1909 S VDB turned over to the mint and re-struck as an MS 65, well, that would seem quite bazaar.

 

Where does Classich stop?  They do the motor – do they do a frame?  A trans axel?  Sheeeet man, gimmie a brand new Barcetta, well, for a George Soros pay check.  But service with a smile.

 

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From: Brian E. Buxton [mailto:BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:30 AM
To: DOUG
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari 250 GT SWB Chassis# 2639 , from bad to worst.

 

If the car passed a Classiche inspection (which I thought the cars had to physically go back to Ferrari, or to a dealer where a Classiche employee could fly in and view it), then how is what you've just sent possible?  Even if it is as re-stamp, if it passes Classiche as correct for the car then it's correct ...

Brian



On 10/20/11 11:20 AM, Douglas Le Grand wrote:

There has been new information on Chassis# 2639, making the broker scam small potatoes to anyone serious about Ferrari, and its marque. This car was reportedly sold for $4.1 million to a trusting person believing the car was authentic, matching number 250GT SWB Berlinetti, when in fact the engine is an overstamp repro. I would like to speak with the person who bought this car, Chassis #2639, Please contact me. The seller (Broker) not the owner, of this car has a long list of corruption/ fraud/decept of High End Rare Vintage Ferrari's in Orange County CA.. Do we regulate ourselves or just let the buyer beware. I think not.

 

 

Douglas S. Le Grand

 

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