I wonder if there is an active group bringing those kinds of cars
over here? (USA) - at those prices it seems they could make a
profit even with shipping costs, etc...
Larry
Over here you can buy an older Bentley or RR for less than
5k. With the price of fuel and the road tax nobody wants them!
They are too big for the road, to big to park, cost around 200
dollars to fill up and won't fit in your garage! All reasons
these cars are so cheap. For the same reason a 7 series or A8
or S class merc loses 50% of its value in the first year (if
equiped with a V8 or V12) and the diesels are just behind.
They just cost to much to run, don't fit in your garage or on
the roads. The people that buy them new are almost always
companies/chauffeurs ect who change cars every 3 years or so
and can deal with taking a big hit.
A few years ago I bought an A8, for 3k, ran it for a year
and did nothing to it, didn't even service it and then sold it
for 3k. was expensive on the fuel but a lot of car for the
price of a 8 year old Ford Focus!
BR in the UK
1986 328GTS (LHD 89,940km) Died August 19, 2006 Shrewsbury
UK
1980 400i (RHD 74,000 miles)
Searching for the right 512TR
1997 Fiat Barchetta
1985 Bertone X1/9
2003 BMW 530d
1991 Alfa Spider S4 LHD Red
1992 Alfa Spider S4 LHD Black
1993 Alfa Spider S4 LHD Yellow
2010 BMW 320d
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Finding a running Bentley or RR
"on-the-cheap" is like finding a golden
unicorn. People selling those cars have a
certain attitude that makes used Ferrari
sellers look somewhat congenial, and
rational by comparison. What's an
additional $20K overcharge to your typical
status-chasing Blue-Blood? A weekend of
shopping at Barneys NY? C'mon, folks - do
they even read NADA before writing a check
for such a car? NADA is for the "little
people", after all.... Don't get me wrong -
If somebody 'gifted' me a clean
rolling-chassis, I'd stuff a used Ford Cobra
motor into it in a heartbeat. Glass-packs
and all. But I like to daydream.
...and don't get me started about local
Govts that charge 'Property Tax' for cars.
Granted, here in MA the Sales Tax for
automobiles is capped at $300. BUT - their
sliding-percentage rates for Automotive
Property Tax assessment has you paying MORE
over your term of ownership than you would
have with an up-front Sales Tax charge, yet
the Tree Huggers in Beacon Hill wonder why
nobody is rushing-out to purchase the latest
$35K+ 'green cars'....maybe its because we
can do the math. Good thing my 308 QV is
over 25 years old, and according to the
state of MA is 'worthless' - my tax on that
is only around $150 annually.
M
--- On Tue, 8/14/12, Robert W. Garven Jr.
<rgarven [at] gmail.com> wrote:
From: Robert W. Garven Jr.
<rgarven [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] ferrari's in Italy
To: "Michael"
<Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList"
<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 11:29 PM
Matt,
Can you explain that more. In CA we
only pay a state reg fee which is 100$
for the Ferrari and 300 for insurance.
The city charges nothing. I pay all my
taxes and feel like it is an
obligation to be a citizen
but it sounds like you are getting
raped!
Rob
Robert W. Garven Jr.
"The Ferrari is a dream - people
dream of
owning this
special
vehicle and
for most
people it will
remain a dream
apart from for
those lucky
few." Enzo
Ferrari
On Aug 14, 2012, at 11:42 AM,
Matt Boyd wrote:
What Erik's referring to is my
1991 Turbo R that I doubt you
could find at a dealer for over
$20k.....and my city/locality is
assessing its value at $43k and
taxing me about $2.5k/year as a
result. No recourse for me (I've
tried and met with the
commissioner of the
revenue)....unless I take it to
court. And based on VA state law,
I'll lose. The only thing I could
do is convince NADA.com
that they are screwed in the head
publishing that a 1991 Turbo R is
worth $43k, since the state says
if a "recognized published pricing
guide" publishes a value, then
that is what you assess the car at
for tax purposes....
But I digress....
-matt
On
Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Erik
Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
wrote:
Isn't your county already
sticking it to you for your
Bentley? You need to move
further off the paved road,
some of us are paying a lower
percentage than Romey...
I agree that we
shouldn't feel sorry
for tax cheats at all.
I also don't like the
equivalent of racial
profiling that would
cause someone driving
a car to be stopped
just because they
might be wealthy. But
maybe that's just
me...
-Matt
'85 308
'39 RR P-III
'91 Turbo R
etc
PS-As an aside, if
anyone is selling a
good manual TDI Passat
or Jetta at $15k or
hopefully way south of
that, let me know....
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