Ferrari Mailing List: Re: let the debate begin

[Adam Green (FlatCrank]

The sequence of events leading to each shooting tends to be similar:  a troubled young man becomes estranged from his peer group, his instability becomes apparent to his parents and employers or school staff.  Efforts to avert tragedy are muted by doubt and incompetence as well as crippling liability laws.  A crime needs only motive and opportunity.  Once the motive is clearly evident in the psychosis of the individual, the opportunity is as simple as buying weapons over the counter and the background checks don't stop them.  Then people get hurt.

It's no coincidence that the same scenario unfolds with alcohol and youth, and cigarettes and youth -- and no coincidence that these highly profitable industries are "regulated" by a single authorities (like the ATF) and have their legions of lobbyists and their shared interest in propaganda machines like the NRA.

As for calls to have guards at schools, aside from the billions of dollars in salaries, and the additional weapons sales, and the inuring effect on schoolchildren to be surrounded by the threat of violence and the advocated solution being to meet fire with fire ... hardly the way forward for any society ... once the schools become fortresses, then what?  

Do we dig moats around public sporting venues, do we have TSA cavity searches to walk into a shopping mall?  

An armed guard is an escalation violence, not a solution.  But this thinking comes from a country that invades and bombs other countries, then wages war with an unseen enemy across all those same countries.  No surprise the killing of children does not bring thoughts of peace and healthcare for the mentally ill, but instead business propositions for selling more guns and creating more criminals rather than fewer mentally ill people falling through the gaping cracks of society.

I tried to think of the most offensive rewording of the NRA, all I came up with is practically a flattering compliment:  Neanderthal Redneck America

You see, I have some good friends who are self-described rednecks and great car guys.  And Neanderthals were mostly peaceful herbivores, forming self-sustaining societies to work as collectives, not to hunt and kill each other with no appreciation for life itself.

Adam

On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

Yes sir, even though it lived life in a crippled form...  (Never got a chance to fly a D)

Back to the question, a gun, any gun, sitting on a table never kills anyone.  And while the recent tragedy was committed with a gun, history is full of psychos killing without guns ( ie: Jack the Ripper, Genghis Kahn).   Bottom line is Society creates psychos and we need to rid ourselves of psychos, not their implements.  

Rick

On Dec 22, 2012, at 2:41 PM, cjromero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:

Tomcat was a dangerous machine 

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On Dec 22, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

No, don't dig Army toys.  I'd like one of my old Tomcats though...  And in the right hands it could be a hoot and no one gets hurt!  

Rick

On Dec 22, 2012, at 2:32 PM, cjromero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:

So you should be able to buy an 

Apache Helicopter ? 

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On Dec 22, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

I have no problems with any weapons.  I have a problem with idiots owning them.   Now how do we keep psychos from getting them.  And no, I don't think taking them away from everyone is an acceptable answer. 

Rick

On Dec 22, 2012, at 1:58 PM, "cjromero" <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:

Ok so who on the list still thinks we need to have assault weapons?

And for those who hunt can you hunt at night?

 

Standby I am going BURNERS ANGELS 50!!

 

Clyde Romero

 

just the right amount of wrong!

 

"SCARS ARE TATTOOS WITH BETTER STORIES"

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