Ferrari Mailing List: Re: GUN DEBATE

[dale sailors (sailorsdaleedward]

HI CLYDE

NOBODY NEEDS EXTRA CAPACITY IN ANY AREA

WANTS ARE ANOTHER THING THOUGH

A YUGO OR CHEVY VEGA PROBABLY COULD EXCEED

LEGAL USA CAR PERFORMANCE OPPORTUNITIES.

WHO WOULD WANT TO GO THAT WAY THOUGH.

BILLY THE KID USED 41 CALIBER DOUBLE ACTION

COLTS WITH WEAK ACTIONS, PROBABLY BECAUSE OF

COST.

HE OUTGUNNED MANY CARRYING HEAVIER CALIBER

COLT SINGLE ACTIONS THAT WERE THE STYLISH

UPGRADE.

BASICALLY PERFORMANCE MINIMAL NEEDS COULD

AND CAN BE MET IN MANY AREAS USING MINIMAL

EQUIPMENT.

BUT THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD EXTRA PERFORMANCE

OFTEN WANT IT.

THE ITEM DOESN'T CAUSE PROBLEMS.

THE OPERATOR CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS.

REGARDS

DALE

 

From: cjromero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
To: 'dale sailors' <sailorsdaleedward [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 8:35 AM
Subject: RE: [Ferrari] GUN DEBATE

Here is the real question

Does anyone other than the military need an M-16 type weapon ?

I was in a Bass Pro shop the other day after qualifying for the program I am in and you can buy a level 3 Night Vision Scope 4x

Now you tell me what civilian needs this type of capability?

I am open to hearing what you have to say.

 

I have 3 ½ combat tours

I was a scout helicopter pilot my first tour in Vietnam and engaged the enemy up close and personnel.

So I know what it is to kill and be shot! ( 3 purple hearts)

The other 2 in RF-4C Phantoms and a partial ground tour in Iraq in 2005

 

I am all ears

 

Clyde taking cover and requesting an airstrike DANGER CLOSE!

 

 

 

From: dale sailors [mailto:sailorsdaleedward [at] yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:31 AM
To: Clyde
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] GUN DEBATE

 

SEASONS GREETINGS.

     UNFORTUNATELY THE USA HAS HAD A RASH OF

SHOOTINGS WITH INNOCENT VICTIMS KILLED OR INJURED.

     AND THE SPECIAL INTERESTS ARE ABOUT TO TRY

TO MORE STRICTLY REGULATE FIREARMS, ACCESSORIES

SUCH AS CLIPS AND AMMO.

     AND OF COURSE VERY FEW ARE INTERESTED IN

POSITIONING TRAINED ARMED SECURITY AT SCHOOLS,

MALLS, PUBLIC PLACES, ETC.

     AND LESS ARE INTERESTED IN ADDRESSING THE

HORDES OF MENTALLY OR EMOTIONALLY CHALLENGED

SOCIOPATHS THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM HAS DUMPED

ON THE PUBLIC STREETS. I ACKNOWLEDGE MOST OF

THE MENTALLY OR EMOTIONALLY ILL ARE NOT A THREAT

OR AT WORST, ARE A THREAT TO THEMSELVES BUT

THESE ARE THE OTHER FOLKS.

     BUT SPECIFICALLY CONCERNING GUNS.

     FOR SEVERAL YEARS I WAS TRIBAL

ADMINISTRATOR AND LAW ENFORCEMENT ON

TWO RESERVATIONS IN THE USA AND MEXICO.

EVERY FAMILY HAD SEVERAL 30-30 RILES AND

AMMO IN EVERY RESIDENCE. MOST ALSO HAD

OTHER HUNTING OR ASSAULT RIFLES, SHOTGUNS

OR 22 CALIBER RIFLES. A FEW HAD PISTOLS AND

ONE MACHINE GUN EXISTED. DESPITE HIGH LEVELS

OF INHALENT ABUSE AND ALCOHOLISM AMONG THE

TRIBE AND DETERIORATING SOCIAL MORES

COMPLICATED BY INTERNAL POLITICAL

CIVIL WAR AMONG THE MEMBERS, I NEVER HAD

A FIREARM RELATED CRIME. THERE WERE SEVERAL

SERIOUS ASSAULTS WITH KNIVES AND A SCREWDRIVER

(DISEMBOWELMENTS, STABBINGS, SCALPINGS) AND

MOTOR VEHICLES. ONE EVENT INVOLVED ROCKS!

I NEVER HAD TO FIRE A SHOT ALTHOUGH I KEPT

A PISTOL GRIP SHOTGUN AND 44 MAGNUM HANDGUN

HANDY. SURPRISINGLY THE CRIMINALS WERE MORE

AFRAID OF A RED TOMAHAWK FOR CULTURAL REASONS.

      I REALISE THIS SOUNDS UNBELIEVABLE IN THE

RECENT PAST IN THE USA OR EVEN MEXICO BUT IT

DID HAPPEN.

      DESPITE A READY AVAILABILITY OF FIREARMS

TO A SEVERELY CHALLENGED POPULATION OF 750

INDIVIDUALS---NO FIREARM CRIMES OCCURRED OVER

SEVERAL YEARS.

      GUNS DON'T CAUSE CRIMES.

      SOCIOPATHIC PERSONS DO.

      NOW WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO REALISTICALLY

IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY LOOKING AT WEAPONS ONLY.

1/ REQUIRE A THOROUGH BACKGROUND CHECK TO BUY

   BUY ANY WEAPONS, AMMO, ACCESSORIES SUCH AS

   CLIPS, OR POLICE OR MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

   MICROCHIP QUALIFIED PERSONS. AT EVERY PURCHASE,

   SELLER WOULD VERIFY MICROCHIP STATUS AND

   REPORT PURCHASE TO ATF AND FBI.

2/ MICROCHIP ALL CONVICTED FELONS, PERSONS

   MEDICALLY OR JUDICIALLY DECLARED POTENTIALLY

   DANGEROUS, FAMILY VIOLENCE OFFENDERS AND KNOWN

   MEMBERS OF CRIMINAL OR SUBVERSIVE GROUPS AND

   MARK THEM INELGIBLE TO PURCHASE OR OWN THE

   ABOVE ITEMS. REQUIRE A SEVERE PENALTY FOR

   VIOLATIONS. EQUIP ALL POLICE WITH MICROCHIP

   SCANNERS TO ALLOW FIELD VERIFICATION OF STATUS.

3/ REQUIRE SAFE STORAGE OF ABOVE LISTED ITEMS

   BY AUTHORIZED OWNERS. GUN SAFES, GUN TRIGGER

   LOCKS, ETC.

4/ REQUIRE SAFE HUNTING AND SAFE WEAPON HANDLING

   COURSES PRIOR TO FIRST PURCHASE OF LISTED ITEMS.

5/ REQUIRE MANDATORY DEATH PENALTY FOR ALL FELONS

   CONVICTED OF ANY CRIME INVOLVING A WEAPON.

   SENTENCE TO BE EXECUTED WITHIN 90 DAYS OF

   CONVICTION INCLUDING ONE PROCEDURAL

   APPEAL/REVIEW. EXECUTION TO BE PUBLICALLY

   TELEVISED.

THAT SHOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

RESPECTFULLY,

DALE E SAILORS