Hey Hans – I have on good authority the
308 manual was translated by a band of excommunicated Tibetan Monks and typed
up and printed by a small Minnesota
church in their basement. Crude. A lot of stuff happens which may
be missing between the lines. Birdman and I am sure there are others within
our esteemed company who can fill in the blanks, have done this many times and
codified the magic recipe. I’ll bet there are VW tuners who know
this carb quite well too. Therefore I go with the longer version and more
wordy version. I am a killer on Solex PII (both versions) and 3 bbl Zeniths
and Weber’s carbs but these 308 carbs? I don’t trust myself.
Onward
DOUG
PS – geeeze Rob, that sure is a nice
spread. Did you do that?
From: Hans E. Hansen
[mailto:FList [at] hanshansen.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:47
PM
To: DOUG
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] '79 308GTB
idle problem resolved!
What's wrong with simply
using the procedure in the factory
service manual? It's very clear, and it works.
Hans.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Robert W. Garven Jr. <rgarven [at] gmail.com>
wrote:
I found carl Jones carb sync worked better for me:
no offense to birdman who is great, it was just easier for me to
follow, Carl is an old time friend here also.
Rob
"The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of
owning this special vehicle and for most people it will remain a dream apart
from for those lucky few." Enzo Ferrari
On Mar 14, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Stephen Sherman wrote:
Have you installed Birdmans fuse blocks, I know this is not related to
your idle problem, but will save electrical gremlins later.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Doug and Terri Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
Thanks Rick -
My plan is to trace the lines with the book and verify the $300 dollar per
hour Dweebs ran the lines and the check valves correctly.
Then, as you did, do the Birdman Dance from A to Z. So that will cover
your
thots. Just gotta get my butt in gear. Looking for those warm days
of
Spring - you know, anything below 70 degrees F outside is a bitch.
BUWHAahaahahahaha
DOUG of Kalifornia
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:43 PM
To: Doug and Terri Anderson
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: RE: [Ferrari] '79 308GTB idle problem resolved!
Sounds to me like you have a stuck float in a carb, causing starvation.
Remember, the height of the fuel in the float chamber sets the height of the
fuel in the emulsion tubes.
Colin Campbell, in his engine bible "The Sports Car Engine: Its tuning and
modification", says the first thing to check is adequate fuel delivery
rate,
thereby verifying the pump(s) and filters.
Dunno. Just thinking with my fingers.
I did NOT remove the deck lid. I DID hit my head a number of times.
And as
all carb's 308 owners know, its a NASTY fight to remove/install the air
filter element with the deck lid in place!
-rick
--- On Thu, 3/14/13, Doug and Terri Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
> From: Doug and Terri Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net>
> Subject: RE: [Ferrari] '79 308GTB idle problem resolved!
> To: "'Rick Lindsay'" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:28 PM
> Whellll now - first congratulations
> (in a John Wayne voice
over). Done deal
> and all seems well. Great.
>
> That said tho - I HATE THOSE KINDA FIXES.
>
> Man - I wanted to hear you found a snapped rudeapost gear
> connector, a bent
> kanibbling pin interfering with the phramas or something -
> but shoot, just
> going thru the same ol same ol you did before and THAT fixed
> it? Rats.
>
> I still have a stinko problem with our '78 GTS, tho haven't
> putzed around
> with it for month. The problem is a car that stalls at
> idle on a hill (like
> a steep driveway) and happily re-starts when rolled back to
> the level. I
> HATE that stuff too.
>
> All started AFTER replacing all the fuel hoses 'cause I
> smelled gas and even
> tho we blame cLYdE for an abundance of gas smells and hot
> air - he do make
> sense that an engine fire is bad for morale.
>
> Onward - and again - thanks for letting us know outcome.
>
> DOUG
> PS - Rick do you remove the rear deck lid or do you just
> fight within the
> limited space?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Lindsay [mailto:rolindsay [at] yahoo.com]
>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:27 PM
> To: DOUG
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: [Ferrari] '79 308GTB idle problem resolved!
>
> Hello Friends,
>
> I write today to thank everyone here, and over on
> FerrariChat, for their
> suggestions regarding my '79 Standard Specification (Euro)
> 308GTB's idle
> problems. I have to admit, I did not search for the problem
> scientifically.
> Rather, I followed everyone's advice, at the same time.
>
> 1. Rebuilt carbs WITHOUT removing the throttle shafts or
> plates. (Previous
> work.)
> 2. Installed new heat insulators with integral gaskets,
> below the carbs.
> 3. Replaced the fuel hoses. (Previous work.)
> 4. Cleaned and lightly oiled the linkage.
> 5. Assembled the ball joints on the linkage with
> 'considerable play'.
> 6. Ran the engine until at operating temperature, before
> tuning.
> 7. Followed The Birdman's carb synch guide to the letter.
> 8. Verified that nothing was binding as the air cleaner went
> back on.
> 9. Tested, and retested the idle as each part went
> together.
> 10. Went for a long test drive.
> 11. Perfect performance!!!
>
> Thank you, everyone.
>
> -rick
>
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