Re: 308GT4, was something...
From: francis newman (francisfntn.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:26:28 -0800 (PST)
Thanks Charles

Have always counted you and your Dad as good friends ever since those days in 
Maranello 15 years ago.

I will make a pointt of posting more on here when I have the car (have to cross 
my fingers there - but spoke with the vendo again today and all is on track).

Even my wife is getting quite excited!

Francis

On 19 Feb 2014, at 19:21, Charles Perry wrote:

> Congratulations! So excited that after so long as an enthusiast you're
> getting to enjoy the dream.
> 
> However that dream manifests for you, I hope you love it. Best of luck,
> and don't forget that some of the best List posts over the years have
> been those new owner impressions and experiences! Share!
> 
> -- Charles
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: francis newman [mailto:francis [at] fntn.co.uk] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:27 PM
> To: Charles Perry
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308GT4, was something...
> 
> I'm very late to the party. Just catching up on some reading as I've
> been too busy to keep up with things.
> 
> Rather an apt discussion as I'm in the process, after all these years,
> of buying my first Ferrari - a blue 79 308GT4 (Euro of course - being
> over here). 
> 
> Having read what everyone has said, one of the reasons I have gone for
> this car is precisely because it DOES have carbs. I don't want a daily
> driver. I want something old school with a great sound that I can
> occasionally really enjoy. If I want something trouble free that still
> goes like stink, but in fact is pretty boring, I get in my 2.8L V6 Turbo
> GM Vectra thingy!
> 
> I have always loved the Bertone shape, even more so now, and I love it
> in blue so as long as it all goes through, week after next if all goes
> according to plan, I'll be a very happy bunny :-)
> 
> I'm no mechanic so probably won't be doing much taking things apart in
> the engine compartment, but I'm looking forward to giving the car a bit
> of TLC. It needs a bit of professional work done on the body, but
> nothing too scary or (I hope) expensive.
> 
> I think I've got a good deal, and certainly over here these cars are
> going up in value at a good rate.
> 
> Anyway, I'm now 64 and if I don't do it now I never will. And with
> interest rates as they are I might as well put some of my pension money
> into something that I don't think is going to go down in value, and
> enjoy it a bit more than having it sit in a bank account earning not
> very much.
> 
> Francis
> 
> 
> On 7 Feb 2014, at 14:43, Clyde Romero wrote:
> 
>> Clyde says
>> If you like carbs great
>> And I don't hate your car
>> The reason carbs went away is because of fires, emissions, and 
>> starting problems just to name a few As for styling if you like it buy
> 
>> it It wasn't a big hit so Ferrari dropped it Most people want a car 
>> any car they put a key it in an go If everyone liked carbs we would 
>> still be watching black and whit TV and flying airliners with round
> engines!
>> That's what Clyde says!
>> 
>> Clyde Romero
>> 
>> In Victory you deserve Champagne
>> In Defeat You Need It!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:12 AM, "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Nice description FG.  Well done.  I hope you sent cLYdE a 
>>> personalised  and signed copy.  Ah ah ah
>>> 
>>> Only problem I find now with our 308 GTS which is in the restoration 
>>> process are parts are Ferrari 288 GTO expensive and one would do 
>>> better looking for replacement rubber parts in a convent in France 
>>> than we can any place else.  Drat
>>> 
>>> Onward
>>> DOUG
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Fellippe Galletta [mailto:fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 2:58 AM
>>> To: DOUG
>>> Cc: The FerrariList
>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308GT4, was something...
>>> 
>>> I agree that the 308 GT/4 has gotten better with age and is a very
> cool car. While it is very, very similar to a 308 GTB, there are enough
> differences to make it special in its own way.
>>> 
>>> It's basically what a 308 would look like if Lamborghini created
> it....just look at the Urracco, and the taillights of the Jalpa.
>>> 
>>> A '73 series I, standard ("euro") spec would be my pick, modded with
> 16" QV wheels and modern rubber. I'd also prefer it if it had Dino
> badges as opposed to Ferrari. Don't believe you see too many of those
> around. 
>>> 
>>> This car would be more interesting to me than just about all other
> 308s except the carbureted euro GTBs, and maybe even the GTS as well.
> GTBi/GTSi, and any 308 with US bumpers is too much for me to handle. 
>>> 
>>> Some of the GT4s have the same problem of course. 
>>> 
>>> Carburetors and cars old enough not to need catalytic 
>>> converters.....life is good. :)
>>> 
>>> FG
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Rick Lindsay
> <richardolindsay [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Since we're sharing opinions, I'll toss mine in: I think the 308GT4
> is absolutely beautiful. Yes, Bertone's designs are more space-age
> angular than Pininfarina's curves, but no less visionary. What I can
> claim is that I feel no natural attraction to most Zigato designs, and
> some I find to be butt-ugly!
>>> 
>>> clYde finds anything with a carburetor to be a firey death trap. That
> may play a role in his dislike ofvthe GT4. He hates my 308GTB for that
> very reason. But there is nothing on Earth that sounds better than a
> bank of Webers.  And I have to admit that my all time favorite
> auto-music comes from the six dual choke Webers on a first generation
> Countach. My 308GTB comes in second. And I bet Rob's GT4 ties with it
> for that position.
>>> 
>>> You know what opinions are like, and mine is no different. Such is
> life.
>>> 
>>> -rick
>>> 
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