Re: 308GT4, was something...
From: Matt Boyd (ferrari308drivergmail.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:49:16 -0800 (PST)
Francis,
 
Congratulations on the new acquisition! We've had so few technical posts lately, so as you work on your car (or have your car worked on), please share what you're up to, the problems, remedies, etc.

-Matt
'85 euro 308
'39 RR P-III
'57 Chevy Bel Air
'13 Tesla Model S
etc
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:26 PM, francis newman <francis [at] fntn.co.uk> wrote:
Thanks Charles

Have always counted you and your Dad as good friends ever since those days in Maranello 15 years ago.

I will make a pointt of posting more on here when I have the car (have to cross my fingers there - but spoke with the vendo again today and all is on track).

Even my wife is getting quite excited!

Francis

On 19 Feb 2014, at 19:21, Charles Perry wrote:

> Congratulations! So excited that after so long as an enthusiast you're
> getting to enjoy the dream.
>
> However that dream manifests for you, I hope you love it. Best of luck,
> and don't forget that some of the best List posts over the years have
> been those new owner impressions and experiences! Share!
>
> -- Charles
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: francis newman [mailto:francis [at] fntn.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:27 PM
> To: Charles Perry
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308GT4, was something...
>
> I'm very late to the party. Just catching up on some reading as I've
> been too busy to keep up with things.
>
> Rather an apt discussion as I'm in the process, after all these years,
> of buying my first Ferrari - a blue 79 308GT4 (Euro of course - being
> over here).
>
> Having read what everyone has said, one of the reasons I have gone for
> this car is precisely because it DOES have carbs. I don't want a daily
> driver. I want something old school with a great sound that I can
> occasionally really enjoy. If I want something trouble free that still
> goes like stink, but in fact is pretty boring, I get in my 2.8L V6 Turbo
> GM Vectra thingy!
>
> I have always loved the Bertone shape, even more so now, and I love it
> in blue so as long as it all goes through, week after next if all goes
> according to plan, I'll be a very happy bunny :-)
>
> I'm no mechanic so probably won't be doing much taking things apart in
> the engine compartment, but I'm looking forward to giving the car a bit
> of TLC. It needs a bit of professional work done on the body, but
> nothing too scary or (I hope) expensive.
>
> I think I've got a good deal, and certainly over here these cars are
> going up in value at a good rate.
>
> Anyway, I'm now 64 and if I don't do it now I never will. And with
> interest rates as they are I might as well put some of my pension money
> into something that I don't think is going to go down in value, and
> enjoy it a bit more than having it sit in a bank account earning not
> very much.
>
> Francis
>
>
> On 7 Feb 2014, at 14:43, Clyde Romero wrote:
>
>> Clyde says
>> If you like carbs great
>> And I don't hate your car
>> The reason carbs went away is because of fires, emissions, and
>> starting problems just to name a few As for styling if you like it buy
>
>> it It wasn't a big hit so Ferrari dropped it Most people want a car
>> any car they put a key it in an go If everyone liked carbs we would
>> still be watching black and whit TV and flying airliners with round
> engines!
>> That's what Clyde says!
>>
>> Clyde Romero
>>
>> In Victory you deserve Champagne
>> In Defeat You Need It!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:12 AM, "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice description FG.  Well done.  I hope you sent cLYdE a
>>> personalised  and signed copy.  Ah ah ah
>>>
>>> Only problem I find now with our 308 GTS which is in the restoration
>>> process are parts are Ferrari 288 GTO expensive and one would do
>>> better looking for replacement rubber parts in a convent in France
>>> than we can any place else.  Drat
>>>
>>> Onward
>>> DOUG
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Fellippe Galletta [mailto:fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 2:58 AM
>>> To: DOUG
>>> Cc: The FerrariList
>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308GT4, was something...
>>>
>>> I agree that the 308 GT/4 has gotten better with age and is a very
> cool car. While it is very, very similar to a 308 GTB, there are enough
> differences to make it special in its own way.
>>>
>>> It's basically what a 308 would look like if Lamborghini created
> it....just look at the Urracco, and the taillights of the Jalpa.
>>>
>>> A '73 series I, standard ("euro") spec would be my pick, modded with
> 16" QV wheels and modern rubber. I'd also prefer it if it had Dino
> badges as opposed to Ferrari. Don't believe you see too many of those
> around.
>>>
>>> This car would be more interesting to me than just about all other
> 308s except the carbureted euro GTBs, and maybe even the GTS as well.
> GTBi/GTSi, and any 308 with US bumpers is too much for me to handle.
>>>
>>> Some of the GT4s have the same problem of course.
>>>
>>> Carburetors and cars old enough not to need catalytic
>>> converters.....life is good. :)
>>>
>>> FG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Rick Lindsay
> <richardolindsay [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Since we're sharing opinions, I'll toss mine in: I think the 308GT4
> is absolutely beautiful. Yes, Bertone's designs are more space-age
> angular than Pininfarina's curves, but no less visionary. What I can
> claim is that I feel no natural attraction to most Zigato designs, and
> some I find to be butt-ugly!
>>>
>>> clYde finds anything with a carburetor to be a firey death trap. That
> may play a role in his dislike ofvthe GT4. He hates my 308GTB for that
> very reason. But there is nothing on Earth that sounds better than a
> bank of Webers.  And I have to admit that my all time favorite
> auto-music comes from the six dual choke Webers on a first generation
> Countach. My 308GTB comes in second. And I bet Rob's GT4 ties with it
> for that position.
>>>
>>> You know what opinions are like, and mine is no different. Such is
> life.
>>>
>>> -rick
>>>
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