Ferrari Mailing List: Re: 308GT4, was something...

[Robert W. Garven Jr. (rgarven]

All,

The 1975 US car is the same engine spec as the Euro, with a bit more smog stuff. The later cars got much worse over here. a gt4 just bid up to 36K on ebay before the seller sold offline.

the 14" wheel are easy to find and cheap. If you need to know anything about the GT4 I have 20 years of research and first hand experience.

Robert W. Garven Jr.

rgarven [at] gmail.com

 "The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special vehicle and for most people it will remain a dream apart from for those lucky few." Enzo Ferrari

On Feb 19, 2014, at 1:49 PM, francis newman wrote:

Well Clyde

I have seen documentary proof that a dealer has offered US$35K for the car I am looking at. There are two on offer from dealers at US$62K and another one which I know is a bit of a dog and which is on offer for US$40K  and for which I know the owner was given US$32K on a trade in for a 348.

Of course I take the offer prices with a pinch of salt but they are far removed from what you are suggesting.

Of course exchange rates, the relative lack of performance of US spec cars etc do make a difference so it's not comparing eggs with eggs. But still....

Francis

PS. How much are 308s and 328s fetching over there?


On 19 Feb 2014, at 20:54, clyde romero wrote:

OK SO WHATS the going price for this over there?

Because here that’s the price

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-----Original Message-----

From: francis newman [mailto:francis [at] fntn.co.uk]

Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 2:14 PM

To: Clyde

Cc: The FerrariList

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308GT4, was something...

Hy Clyde

Yes - I have already budgeted as you suggest.

And you are slightly out of touch with prices in Europe :-)

Best

Francis

On 19 Feb 2014, at 18:51, Clyde Romero wrote:

Ok

Great

Whatever you are going to pay for the car Put away $5k for repairs

That's where the smart money is on this car You should not pay over

$20 k for it If you do it's your money Remember you are taking about a

35 plus year old car

Clyde

Clyde Romero

In Victory you deserve Champagne

In Defeat You Need It!

On Feb 19, 2014, at 1:27 PM, francis newman <francis [at] fntn.co.uk> wrote:

I'm very late to the party. Just catching up on some reading as I've been

too busy to keep up with things.

Rather an apt discussion as I'm in the process, after all these years, of

buying my first Ferrari - a blue 79 308GT4 (Euro of course - being over

here).

Having read what everyone has said, one of the reasons I have gone for

this car is precisely because it DOES have carbs. I don't want a daily

driver. I want something old school with a great sound that I can

occasionally really enjoy. If I want something trouble free that still goes

like stink, but in fact is pretty boring, I get in my 2.8L V6 Turbo GM

Vectra thingy!

I have always loved the Bertone shape, even more so now, and I love

it in blue so as long as it all goes through, week after next if all

goes according to plan, I'll be a very happy bunny :-)

I'm no mechanic so probably won't be doing much taking things apart in

the engine compartment, but I'm looking forward to giving the car a bit of

TLC. It needs a bit of professional work done on the body, but nothing too

scary or (I hope) expensive.

I think I've got a good deal, and certainly over here these cars are

going up in value at a good rate.

Anyway, I'm now 64 and if I don't do it now I never will. And with

interest rates as they are I might as well put some of my pension money into

something that I don't think is going to go down in value, and enjoy it a

bit more than having it sit in a bank account earning not very much.

Francis

On 7 Feb 2014, at 14:43, Clyde Romero wrote:

Clyde says

If you like carbs great

And I don't hate your car

The reason carbs went away is because of fires, emissions, and

starting problems just to name a few As for styling if you like it

buy it It wasn't a big hit so Ferrari dropped it Most people want a

car any car they put a key it in an go If everyone liked carbs we

would still be watching black and whit TV and flying airliners with

round engines!

That's what Clyde says!

Clyde Romero

In Victory you deserve Champagne

In Defeat You Need It!

On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:12 AM, "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:

Nice description FG.  Well done.  I hope you sent cLYdE a

personalised  and signed copy.  Ah ah ah

Only problem I find now with our 308 GTS which is in the

restoration process are parts are Ferrari 288 GTO expensive and one

would do better looking for replacement rubber parts in a convent

in France than we can any place else.  Drat

Onward

DOUG

From: Fellippe Galletta [mailto:fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com]

Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 2:58 AM

To: DOUG

Cc: The FerrariList

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308GT4, was something...

I agree that the 308 GT/4 has gotten better with age and is a very cool

car. While it is very, very similar to a 308 GTB, there are enough

differences to make it special in its own way.

It's basically what a 308 would look like if Lamborghini created

it....just look at the Urracco, and the taillights of the Jalpa.

A '73 series I, standard ("euro") spec would be my pick, modded with

16" QV wheels and modern rubber. I'd also prefer it if it had Dino badges as

opposed to Ferrari. Don't believe you see too many of those around.

This car would be more interesting to me than just about all other 308s

except the carbureted euro GTBs, and maybe even the GTS as well. GTBi/GTSi,

and any 308 with US bumpers is too much for me to handle.

Some of the GT4s have the same problem of course.

Carburetors and cars old enough not to need catalytic

converters.....life is good. :)

FG

On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Rick Lindsay

<richardolindsay [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Since we're sharing opinions, I'll toss mine in: I think the 308GT4 is

absolutely beautiful. Yes, Bertone's designs are more space-age angular than

Pininfarina's curves, but no less visionary. What I can claim is that I feel

no natural attraction to most Zigato designs, and some I find to be

butt-ugly!

clYde finds anything with a carburetor to be a firey death trap. That

may play a role in his dislike ofvthe GT4. He hates my 308GTB for that very

reason. But there is nothing on Earth that sounds better than a bank of

Webers.  And I have to admit that my all time favorite auto-music comes from

the six dual choke Webers on a first generation Countach. My 308GTB comes in

second. And I bet Rob's GT4 ties with it for that position.

You know what opinions are like, and mine is no different. Such is

life.

-rick

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