Re: 308GT4, was something...
From: Clyde Romero (clyderomerof4bellsouth.net)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:10:18 -0800 (PST)
It's a limited production
Homologated race car
I say if you want it bad enough 
Pay thru the nose for it!
It's a car for posers and bragging rights that's it
The individual who buys it's unless he actually race the car is just that 
A poser

It would be just like me buying a WW2 fighter
Yes I flew fighters in Vietnam 
But not in WW2
Very few if any Vietnam fighter pilots own warbirds because we know better 

The car crowd with deep pockets are of the Walter Mitty mind set 
I say they should all buy helicopters
And self cleanse themselves!
As aviation is self cleansing by design


Clyde Romero

In Victory you deserve Champagne
In Defeat You Need It!






On Feb 19, 2014, at 8:59 PM, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

How much would you pay for a NART 275 Spyder?


LS

 



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From: Clyde Romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308GT4, was something...

Please 
Only an idiot would pay that amount for a carb car 

Clyde Romero

In Victory you deserve Champagne
In Defeat You Need It!






On Feb 19, 2014, at 4:58 PM, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

Carbed 308s are moving:

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/?0=0&adtypeFacet=Vehicles%20for%20Sale&makeFacet=Ferrari&sort=c_time_desc&page_size=15&modelFacet[]=308GTB

Selling prices? Prob $40k-75k depending on year, condition and body material.

LS

 



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From: francis newman <francis [at] fntn.co.uk>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent:
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308GT4, was something...

Well Clyde

I have seen documentary proof that a dealer has offered US$35K for the car I am looking at. There are two on offer from dealers at US$62K and another one which I know is a bit of a dog and which is on offer for US$40K  and for which I know the owner was given US$32K on a trade in for a 348.

Of course I take the offer prices with a pinch of salt but they are far removed from what you are suggesting.

Of course exchange rates, the relative lack of performance of US spec cars etc do make a difference so it's not comparing eggs with eggs. But still....

Francis

PS. How much are 308s and 328s fetching over there?


On 19 Feb 2014, at 20:54, clyde romero wrote:

> OK SO WHATS the going price for this over there?
> Because here thatâs the price
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> Scars are tattoos with better stories!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: francis newman [mailto:francis [at] fntn.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 2:14 PM
> To: Clyde
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308GT4, was something...
>
> Hy Clyde
>
> Yes - I have already budgeted as you suggest.
>
> And you are slightly out of touch with prices in Europe :-)
>
> Best
>
> Francis
>
> On 19 Feb 2014, at 18:51, Clyde Romero wrote:
>
>> Ok
>> Great
>> Whatever you are going to pay for the car Put away $5k for repairs
>> That's where the smart money is on this car You should not pay over
>> $20 k for it If you do it's your money Remember you are taking about a
>> 35 plus year old car
>>
>> Clyde
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>>
>> Clyde Romero
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>> In Victory you deserve Champagne
>> In Defeat You Need It!
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>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 1:27 PM, francis newman <francis [at] fntn.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm very late to the party. Just catching up on some reading as I've been
> too busy to keep up with things.
>>>
>>> Rather an apt discussion as I'm in the process, after all these years, of
> buying my first Ferrari - a blue 79 308GT4 (Euro of course - being over
> here).
>>>
>>> Having read what everyone has said, one of the reasons I have gone for
> this car is precisely because it DOES have carbs. I don't want a daily
> driver. I want something old school with a great sound that I can
> occasionally really enjoy. If I want something trouble free that still goes
> like stink, but in fact is pretty boring, I get in my 2.8L V6 Turbo GM
> Vectra thingy!
>>>
>>> I have always loved the Bertone shape, even more so now, and I love
>>> it in blue so as long as it all goes through, week after next if all
>>> goes according to plan, I'll be a very happy bunny :-)
>>>
>>> I'm no mechanic so probably won't be doing much taking things apart in
> the engine compartment, but I'm looking forward to giving the car a bit of
> TLC. It needs a bit of professional work done on the body, but nothing too
> scary or (I hope) expensive.
>>>
>>> I think I've got a good deal, and certainly over here these cars are
> going up in value at a good rate.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I'm now 64 and if I don't do it now I never will. And with
> interest rates as they are I might as well put some of my pension money into
> something that I don't think is going to go down in value, and enjoy it a
> bit more than having it sit in a bank account earning not very much.
>>>
>>> Francis
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 Feb 2014, at 14:43, Clyde Romero wrote:
>>>
>>>> Clyde says
>>>> If you like carbs great
>>>> And I don't hate your car
>>>> The reason carbs went away is because of fires, emissions, and
>>>> starting problems just to name a few As for styling if you like it
>>>> buy it It wasn't a big hit so Ferrari dropped it Most people want a
>>>> car any car they put a key it in an go If everyone liked carbs we
>>>> would still be watching black and whit TV and flying airliners with
> round engines!
>>>> That's what Clyde says!
>>>>
>>>> Clyde Romero
>>>>
>>>> In Victory you deserve Champagne
>>>> In Defeat You Need It!
>>>>
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>>>> On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:12 AM, "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nice description FG.  Well done.  I hope you sent cLYdE a
>>>>> personalised  and signed copy.  Ah ah ah
>>>>>
>>>>> Only problem I find now with our 308 GTS which is in the
>>>>> restoration process are parts are Ferrari 288 GTO expensive and one
>>>>> would do better looking for replacement rubber parts in a convent
>>>>> in France than we can any place else.  Drat
>>>>>
>>>>> Onward
>>>>> DOUG
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Fellippe Galletta [mailto:fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 2:58 AM
>>>>> To: DOUG
>>>>> Cc: The FerrariList
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308GT4, was something...
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree that the 308 GT/4 has gotten better with age and is a very cool
> car. While it is very, very similar to a 308 GTB, there are enough
> differences to make it special in its own way.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's basically what a 308 would look like if Lamborghini created
> it....just look at the Urracco, and the taillights of the Jalpa.
>>>>>
>>>>> A '73 series I, standard ("euro") spec would be my pick, modded with
> 16" QV wheels and modern rubber. I'd also prefer it if it had Dino badges as
> opposed to Ferrari. Don't believe you see too many of those around.
>>>>>
>>>>> This car would be more interesting to me than just about all other 308s
> except the carbureted euro GTBs, and maybe even the GTS as well. GTBi/GTSi,
> and any 308 with US bumpers is too much for me to handle.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of the GT4s have the same problem of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carburetors and cars old enough not to need catalytic
>>>>> converters.....life is good. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> FG
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Rick Lindsay
> <richardolindsay [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Since we're sharing opinions, I'll toss mine in: I think the 308GT4 is
> absolutely beautiful. Yes, Bertone's designs are more space-age angular than
> Pininfarina's curves, but no less visionary. What I can claim is that I feel
> no natural attraction to most Zigato designs, and some I find to be
> butt-ugly!
>>>>>
>>>>> clYde finds anything with a carburetor to be a firey death trap. That
> may play a role in his dislike ofvthe GT4. He hates my 308GTB for that very
> reason. But there is nothing on Earth that sounds better than a bank of
> Webers.  And I have to admit that my all time favorite auto-music comes from
> the six dual choke Webers on a first generation Countach. My 308GTB comes in
> second. And I bet Rob's GT4 ties with it for that position.
>>>>>
>>>>> You know what opinions are like, and mine is no different. Such is
> life.
>>>>>
>>>>> -rick
>>>>>
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