Re: 308GT4, was something...
From: francis newman (francisfntn.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 13:49:41 -0800 (PST)
Well Clyde

I have seen documentary proof that a dealer has offered US$35K for the car I am 
looking at. There are two on offer from dealers at US$62K and another one which 
I know is a bit of a dog and which is on offer for US$40K  and for which I know 
the owner was given US$32K on a trade in for a 348.

Of course I take the offer prices with a pinch of salt but they are far removed 
from what you are suggesting.

Of course exchange rates, the relative lack of performance of US spec cars etc 
do make a difference so it's not comparing eggs with eggs. But still....

Francis

PS. How much are 308s and 328s fetching over there?

 
On 19 Feb 2014, at 20:54, clyde romero wrote:

> OK SO WHATS the going price for this over there?
> Because here that’s the price
> 
> 
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> In defeat you need it!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: francis newman [mailto:francis [at] fntn.co.uk] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 2:14 PM
> To: Clyde
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308GT4, was something...
> 
> Hy Clyde
> 
> Yes - I have already budgeted as you suggest.
> 
> And you are slightly out of touch with prices in Europe :-)
> 
> Best
> 
> Francis
> 
> On 19 Feb 2014, at 18:51, Clyde Romero wrote:
> 
>> Ok
>> Great
>> Whatever you are going to pay for the car Put away $5k for repairs 
>> That's where the smart money is on this car You should not pay over 
>> $20 k for it If you do it's your money Remember you are taking about a 
>> 35 plus year old car
>> 
>> Clyde
>> 
>> 
>> Clyde Romero
>> 
>> In Victory you deserve Champagne
>> In Defeat You Need It!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 1:27 PM, francis newman <francis [at] fntn.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm very late to the party. Just catching up on some reading as I've been
> too busy to keep up with things.
>>> 
>>> Rather an apt discussion as I'm in the process, after all these years, of
> buying my first Ferrari - a blue 79 308GT4 (Euro of course - being over
> here). 
>>> 
>>> Having read what everyone has said, one of the reasons I have gone for
> this car is precisely because it DOES have carbs. I don't want a daily
> driver. I want something old school with a great sound that I can
> occasionally really enjoy. If I want something trouble free that still goes
> like stink, but in fact is pretty boring, I get in my 2.8L V6 Turbo GM
> Vectra thingy!
>>> 
>>> I have always loved the Bertone shape, even more so now, and I love 
>>> it in blue so as long as it all goes through, week after next if all 
>>> goes according to plan, I'll be a very happy bunny :-)
>>> 
>>> I'm no mechanic so probably won't be doing much taking things apart in
> the engine compartment, but I'm looking forward to giving the car a bit of
> TLC. It needs a bit of professional work done on the body, but nothing too
> scary or (I hope) expensive.
>>> 
>>> I think I've got a good deal, and certainly over here these cars are
> going up in value at a good rate.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I'm now 64 and if I don't do it now I never will. And with
> interest rates as they are I might as well put some of my pension money into
> something that I don't think is going to go down in value, and enjoy it a
> bit more than having it sit in a bank account earning not very much.
>>> 
>>> Francis
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7 Feb 2014, at 14:43, Clyde Romero wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Clyde says
>>>> If you like carbs great
>>>> And I don't hate your car
>>>> The reason carbs went away is because of fires, emissions, and 
>>>> starting problems just to name a few As for styling if you like it 
>>>> buy it It wasn't a big hit so Ferrari dropped it Most people want a 
>>>> car any car they put a key it in an go If everyone liked carbs we 
>>>> would still be watching black and whit TV and flying airliners with
> round engines!
>>>> That's what Clyde says!
>>>> 
>>>> Clyde Romero
>>>> 
>>>> In Victory you deserve Champagne
>>>> In Defeat You Need It!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:12 AM, "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Nice description FG.  Well done.  I hope you sent cLYdE a 
>>>>> personalised  and signed copy.  Ah ah ah
>>>>> 
>>>>> Only problem I find now with our 308 GTS which is in the 
>>>>> restoration process are parts are Ferrari 288 GTO expensive and one 
>>>>> would do better looking for replacement rubber parts in a convent 
>>>>> in France than we can any place else.  Drat
>>>>> 
>>>>> Onward
>>>>> DOUG
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Fellippe Galletta [mailto:fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 2:58 AM
>>>>> To: DOUG
>>>>> Cc: The FerrariList
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308GT4, was something...
>>>>> 
>>>>> I agree that the 308 GT/4 has gotten better with age and is a very cool
> car. While it is very, very similar to a 308 GTB, there are enough
> differences to make it special in its own way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's basically what a 308 would look like if Lamborghini created
> it....just look at the Urracco, and the taillights of the Jalpa.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A '73 series I, standard ("euro") spec would be my pick, modded with
> 16" QV wheels and modern rubber. I'd also prefer it if it had Dino badges as
> opposed to Ferrari. Don't believe you see too many of those around. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> This car would be more interesting to me than just about all other 308s
> except the carbureted euro GTBs, and maybe even the GTS as well. GTBi/GTSi,
> and any 308 with US bumpers is too much for me to handle. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some of the GT4s have the same problem of course. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Carburetors and cars old enough not to need catalytic 
>>>>> converters.....life is good. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> FG
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Rick Lindsay
> <richardolindsay [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Since we're sharing opinions, I'll toss mine in: I think the 308GT4 is
> absolutely beautiful. Yes, Bertone's designs are more space-age angular than
> Pininfarina's curves, but no less visionary. What I can claim is that I feel
> no natural attraction to most Zigato designs, and some I find to be
> butt-ugly!
>>>>> 
>>>>> clYde finds anything with a carburetor to be a firey death trap. That
> may play a role in his dislike ofvthe GT4. He hates my 308GTB for that very
> reason. But there is nothing on Earth that sounds better than a bank of
> Webers.  And I have to admit that my all time favorite auto-music comes from
> the six dual choke Webers on a first generation Countach. My 308GTB comes in
> second. And I bet Rob's GT4 ties with it for that position.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You know what opinions are like, and mine is no different. Such is
> life.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -rick
>>>>> 
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