Re: 308GT4, was something...
From: francis newman (francisfntn.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:14:03 -0800 (PST)
Hy Clyde

Yes - I have already budgeted as you suggest.

And you are slightly out of touch with prices in Europe :-)

Best

Francis

On 19 Feb 2014, at 18:51, Clyde Romero wrote:

> Ok 
> Great 
> Whatever you are going to pay for the car
> Put away $5k for repairs 
> That's where the smart money is on this car
> You should not pay over $20 k for it 
> If you do it's your money 
> Remember you are taking about a 35 plus year old car 
> 
> Clyde 
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> Clyde Romero
> 
> In Victory you deserve Champagne
> In Defeat You Need It!
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> On Feb 19, 2014, at 1:27 PM, francis newman <francis [at] fntn.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> I'm very late to the party. Just catching up on some reading as I've been 
>> too busy to keep up with things.
>> 
>> Rather an apt discussion as I'm in the process, after all these years, of 
>> buying my first Ferrari - a blue 79 308GT4 (Euro of course - being over 
>> here). 
>> 
>> Having read what everyone has said, one of the reasons I have gone for this 
>> car is precisely because it DOES have carbs. I don't want a daily driver. I 
>> want something old school with a great sound that I can occasionally really 
>> enjoy. If I want something trouble free that still goes like stink, but in 
>> fact is pretty boring, I get in my 2.8L V6 Turbo GM Vectra thingy!
>> 
>> I have always loved the Bertone shape, even more so now, and I love it in 
>> blue so as long as it all goes through, week after next if all goes 
>> according to plan, I'll be a very happy bunny :-)
>> 
>> I'm no mechanic so probably won't be doing much taking things apart in the 
>> engine compartment, but I'm looking forward to giving the car a bit of TLC. 
>> It needs a bit of professional work done on the body, but nothing too scary 
>> or (I hope) expensive.
>> 
>> I think I've got a good deal, and certainly over here these cars are going 
>> up in value at a good rate.
>> 
>> Anyway, I'm now 64 and if I don't do it now I never will. And with interest 
>> rates as they are I might as well put some of my pension money into 
>> something that I don't think is going to go down in value, and enjoy it a 
>> bit more than having it sit in a bank account earning not very much.
>> 
>> Francis
>> 
>> 
>> On 7 Feb 2014, at 14:43, Clyde Romero wrote:
>> 
>>> Clyde says
>>> If you like carbs great
>>> And I don't hate your car
>>> The reason carbs went away is because of fires, emissions, and starting 
>>> problems just to name a few
>>> As for styling if you like it buy it
>>> It wasn't a big hit so Ferrari dropped it
>>> Most people want a car any car they put a key it in an go 
>>> If everyone liked carbs we would still be watching black and whit TV and 
>>> flying airliners with round engines!
>>> That's what Clyde says!
>>> 
>>> Clyde Romero
>>> 
>>> In Victory you deserve Champagne
>>> In Defeat You Need It!
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:12 AM, "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Nice description FG.  Well done.  I hope you sent cLYdE a personalised  
>>>> and signed copy.  Ah ah ah
>>>> 
>>>> Only problem I find now with our 308 GTS which is in the restoration 
>>>> process are parts are Ferrari 288 GTO expensive and one would do better 
>>>> looking for replacement rubber parts in a convent in France than we can 
>>>> any place else.  Drat
>>>> 
>>>> Onward
>>>> DOUG
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Fellippe Galletta [mailto:fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com] 
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 2:58 AM
>>>> To: DOUG
>>>> Cc: The FerrariList
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308GT4, was something...
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that the 308 GT/4 has gotten better with age and is a very cool 
>>>> car. While it is very, very similar to a 308 GTB, there are enough 
>>>> differences to make it special in its own way.
>>>> 
>>>> It's basically what a 308 would look like if Lamborghini created 
>>>> it....just look at the Urracco, and the taillights of the Jalpa.
>>>> 
>>>> A '73 series I, standard ("euro") spec would be my pick, modded with 16" 
>>>> QV wheels and modern rubber. I'd also prefer it if it had Dino badges as 
>>>> opposed to Ferrari. Don't believe you see too many of those around. 
>>>> 
>>>> This car would be more interesting to me than just about all other 308s 
>>>> except the carbureted euro GTBs, and maybe even the GTS as well. 
>>>> GTBi/GTSi, and any 308 with US bumpers is too much for me to handle. 
>>>> 
>>>> Some of the GT4s have the same problem of course. 
>>>> 
>>>> Carburetors and cars old enough not to need catalytic converters.....life 
>>>> is good. :)
>>>> 
>>>> FG
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Rick Lindsay <richardolindsay [at] 
>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Since we're sharing opinions, I'll toss mine in: I think the 308GT4 is 
>>>> absolutely beautiful. Yes, Bertone's designs are more space-age angular 
>>>> than Pininfarina's curves, but no less visionary. What I can claim is that 
>>>> I feel no natural attraction to most Zigato designs, and some I find to be 
>>>> butt-ugly!
>>>> 
>>>> clYde finds anything with a carburetor to be a firey death trap. That may 
>>>> play a role in his dislike ofvthe GT4. He hates my 308GTB for that very 
>>>> reason. But there is nothing on Earth that sounds better than a bank of 
>>>> Webers.  And I have to admit that my all time favorite auto-music comes 
>>>> from the six dual choke Webers on a first generation Countach. My 308GTB 
>>>> comes in second. And I bet Rob's GT4 ties with it for that position.
>>>> 
>>>> You know what opinions are like, and mine is no different. Such is life.
>>>> 
>>>> -rick
>>>> 
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