I seem to recall something about Ferrari building a SUV at some
point - perhaps it was a joke? In these days of bean counters
running things I wouldn't put it past them...
LarryT
On 10/9/2014 12:49 PM, Rick Moseley
wrote:
As far as what they do... Yep.
As far as what they are, not really. Not that it matters to
function but at least with the sub $300K cars you still get hand
crafted interiors and extremely (HP/liter) efficient engines.
I still laugh when I see the hype documentary on the Ford GT.
Their benchmark to beat was the Ferrari 360. They did it,
barely. But they had to use a motor substantially larger and
supercharged to do it....
So I go back to my original premise; cut back on the number
of models they make. Ensure the cars they do make are
comfortable, durable, trouble free pavement weapons!
Or, to answer your question... They can continue to sell to
every bozo with a fat checkbook and no real appreciation for
what Ferrari WAS!
Rick, you illustrate another incredible sad point here.
Ferraris sub $300k cars aren't much better
than a Corvette, Viper, Z/28, etc.
It used
to be that looks, driving experience and heritage made the
distinction but I cannot tell a 599 from a Toyota Supra at
a distance and my vision is superb.
So,
yes, I love the F60 and variants but the others are a
waste of $$$.
What happened???
LS
central
wines-spirits
est 1934
625 e
street nw
washington,
dc 20004
202-737-2800
Yes, but you are comparing apples and
oranges. You are comparing other's hyper-cars
to Ferrari daily drivers. I think the Enzo and
LaFerrari hold their own with the cars you are
mentioning. How many of the makers you mention
even make a sub $300k car?
Rick, unfortunately I disagree
completely with your assessment.
The
348 wasn't perfect but the 355 was worse
from an engineering standpoint. The 360
was the first car that didn't look like
a Ferrari and it just got watered down
from there. The first time I heard of a
former BMW M3 owner buying a 360, I knew
it was over.
The
550 and 575 are...soft and boring. I've
tried to like them for years but they
are just not for me. And I'm not even
young anymore.
On
the other hand, I find the Pagani Zonda
R, Koeniggsegggggggggg models, Carrera
GT and Maserati MC12 sensational.
So,
it's not that I like only the older
cars.
LS
central
wines-spirits
est 1934
625
e street nw
washington,
dc 20004
202-737-2800
Lash,
I'd disagree...
When LdM took over, the
current car in the pipeline
was the 348... and no
offense to their owners but
they were pretty poor in
both function and build
quality. I'd say the cars
that came after LdM were a
lot better with every
iteration. The 355, 360
lineage up to the 458 are
pretty solid cars who only
suffer from trying to be too
advanced for their own
good. Same for the 550, 575
and up on that side. Now
if you stray away into those
cars that were developed to
satisfy the FaceBook
generation (read FF), yeah
there has been a slide.
I'd like to see Ferrari cut
back on the product line
diversity and make a few
cars that are just
dependable weapons!!
I
purposely left out the
Super/Hyper cars. I believe
they stand on their own
merit. I just think they
need to fire the marketing
folks who name them. I
mean, seriously.... if I
owned a LaFerrari I'd cut
the "La" off and patch the
hole. And while I'm spewing
opinions, the last GTO
didn't deserve the moniker
either. But what do I
know... I just told everyone
I have a brain injury!
<grin>
cLyDe....?????
Rick
Ferrari can
only get
worse...it has
been pretty
bad since LdM
took over.
Passion
Marques are
always best
under their
namesake or
founder. The
first buyout
after usually
leaves a
generation of
virtuous
models due to
leftover
design and
technology.
They models
after that
leftover
generation
start the bad
slide...
LS
central
wines-spirits
est 1934
625 e
street nw
washington,
dc 20004
202-737-2800
Who
else wonders
about what the
future holds
for Ferrari?
Not just
because LdM
has left, but
also because
of the
Fiat/Chrysler
merger. Does
anyone else
think that F/C
will destroy
the Ferrari
name/legacy?
Or does
*everyone*
else think
that?
Jaguar
also had a
decade or two
of floundering
when its
founder died
in the 80's,
but lately
seems to be
making a
pretty strong
comeback (if
you haven't
driven the new
F-Type, you
should - even
if I could
afford a new
Ferrari, I
might actually
opt for the
new F-Type R
Coupe - it's a
rocket ship!).
Thinking
aloud here is
all.....
gp
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