Re: VSC, etc.
From: Matt Boyd (ferrari308drivergmail.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 06:08:13 -0800 (PST)
Rick,
 
Regarding your Shadow, back in 2000 when I decided to buy a Shadow I was over-ruled by my wife who decided they looked "too old." Instead we bought a 20,000 series Spur. Ironically when we picked up the Spur when we purchased it, there was a 1979 or 1980 Wraith II (LWB version of the Shadow) and my wife commented "Wow, that's pretty, why aren't we getting that?"
 
Anyhow, on the Spur, I take it it is different than the Shadow. I think the electric actuators in the climate control flaps are pretty much the same on your Shadow as they were on my Spur (and later on my Turbo R), but my question is what tells the motors to adjust flaps? On my Spur I had an ECU for the climate control fail and the only way to really fix it was to replace the ECU (cost close to $700 at the time). Likewise when the cruise control on the same car went out I had to replace that ECU at over $600. Later on my Turbo R the ECU on the cruise control was faulty but I never dropped the cash to replace that. I think that since I had the Spur a few outfits have offered to repair those types of ECU on the RR/B cars.
 
Just some commentary/discussion points on the whole thing.
 
As you know, we have a Tesla Model S now, and I anticipate that we will keep the car very very long term. Down the road sometime I suspect we will have to replace the battery pack which will probably be at the value of a used Accord when we do it (maybe when the car is 10 years old, just guessing). Other than that, tires, brake pads, wiper blades, and perhaps suspension bushings, there will never be any real maintenance required on the car. The one thing I do worry about long-term is the adjustable air suspension (maybe someday I'll wish I'd gone with a conventional suspension in the car). I guess SOMEDAY the electronics in the car will fail, and hopefully there will be replacement parts available. I personally believe that Tesla as a company will remain in existence long term, but if they look like they're going to fail in the future you can bet I'll be looking for totaled cars or surplus spare parts for the ECUs, LCD displays, etc that might someday fail in our car.
 
-Matt
'85 euro 308
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On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Rick Lindsay <richardolindsay [at] gmail.com> wrote:
Erik writes...

> I'm younger than Rick,...

Everyone is now younger than Rick. Well, except Clyde. We're the same age.

> but my collector interests are all pre 1990.

Indeed. Erik's tastes run a bit further upscale than do mine but I certainly respect his direction. Machines that solve problems with clever devices, not computer algorithms. 

My Silver Shadow probably has more do-dads than any of my other cars - but they're simple do-dads. They're easily repairable and easily sourced. Everything is relay-logic and mechanical switches. Probably the most quirky things on  the car are the electric actuators. They are small motors that turn only to selected positions, based upon which contacts are fed juice. They adjust everything on the car from air flaps to whatever...and they are universal in design so they are interchangeable. But enough of this.

-rick

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