Re: VSC, etc.
From: Doug & Terri (dntdock.net)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 20:35:16 -0800 (PST)
And speaking of a Veyron - - - 
Petersen Auto Museum is getting a renovation.  The Ronald Reagan Presidential 
Library and Museum offered to temporally house some of their automobiles.  
Yesterday I met one of Petersen's docents.  Seems Mr. Petersen bought a very 
special Veyron for his own.  When it was at the Petersen Museum some staff 
member opened the door then shut it.  Apparently the Veyron then goes into 
'start up' mode.  Locked the doors and proceeded to automatically do its 
preflight check list.  Staff was pretty concerned - um, to say the least.  
Veyron - now THAT's a computer cleverly disguised as a car.
DOUG

-----Original Message-----
From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On 
Behalf Of Erik Nielsen
Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 4:35 AM
To: DOUG
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] VSC, etc.

There are a few bolts off of a Veyron sitting on my desk at home.  Aircraft 
grade titanium, torque them once, then thrown them away. And these are part of 
the annual service "kit", I think one of them retails for 550 Euro.

Enjoy them while they're serviceable, bringing one of these back from the dead 
could bankrupt a small country.

They're just aren't enough enthusiasts with deep enough pockets to keep the 
modern fleets going two generations out. 

I'm younger than Rick, but my collector interests are all pre 1990.

Erik

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 3, 2014, at 7:00 AM, Rick Lindsay <richardolindsay [at] gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Cynical DOUG with a  box of useless cell phones, computer screens, 
> > and CPU?s ? now let?s go to the garage - - - - -
> 
> LOL! And they're not that old either!
> 
> So while in the garage; Let's buy a MAF for a 348 / Mondial T. Oops! That 
> computer input device is NLA. Well, used parts from an old Saab may be 
> retrofitted. We found one for €600 in Europe.
> 
> This has been my concern (and soapbox) for some time now. Complexity leads to 
> extinction. Let the 'push to start' computer fail on a Toyota, or any 
> high-volume vehicle, and a replacement is (almost) a short walk away. But 
> what happens with an older limited production super car, when the start 
> button produces...silence? Is that part still available? And if so, for less 
> than the national debt of Greece? Perhaps used from an old Saab...
> 
> This is why I don't own a more modern exotic. 'Exotic' seems to have a 
> practical limit. Another issue concerns the future generation of motorheads. 
> Are these cars restorable? I can buy new Weber carburetor parts for my 
> 35-year-old 308GTB, but I can't buy a new MAF for a 25-year-old Mondial T. 
> Why would I think my grandson could restore a 430 or 458 in 25 years? I'd bet 
> he could still buy MG and Weber parts! Point is, I fear that we are 
> approaching the end of the exotic car restoration hobby. 
> 
> So I'll stick with my old clunkers while others search for MAFs and 
> push-to-start computers. Simple machines are elegant. Inoperative super cars 
> are not.
> 
> Yea, its early. Woke up feeling like I slept in a cement mixer. Damned 
> Lipitor. Writing and Excedrin are physically cathartic. Hurray.
> 
> -rick
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