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Re: 308 fan tech questions
From: Peter Pless (ferrarilistpless.com.au)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 21:43:00 -0700 (PDT)

Well there you go. More proof that nothing is ever NORMAL with Ferrari.

If it were my car, regardless of what was standard, I’d opt to make both fans come on when the thermo switch turns on.

And Clyde, don’t forget how much hotter the air into the radiator because when you turn on the a/c because of the heat from the condenser…..so I’m not entirely convinced that turning on the a/c will help cooling the engine.

 

 

 

From: Clyde Romero [mailto:clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2015 12:05 PM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 fan tech questions

 

Here is the way US cars works

One fan one when temp gets to 185

Other fan fan comes on when A/C is turned on regardless if the temp is at 185 or not

This is the standard wiring 

This is why I tell everyone if your car starts to over heat I would turn on the A/C which turns on the other fan

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On Jul 2, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Peter Pless <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au> wrote:

Doesn’t make sense any other way. Both fans come on when the thermostat on the radiator calls for cooling.

 

From: Robert W. Garven Jr. [mailto:rgarven [at] gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2015 9:45 AM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 fan tech questions

 

I have my AC empty as I never used it and easier to take everything apart without draining it and both my fans come on when hot,

no mods on my car  early GT4.

 

 

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On Jul 2, 2015, at 4:38 PM, Peter Pless <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au> wrote:

 

I don’t believe you’re correct.

However, I’ve never understood why the compressor doesn’t bring on both fans….it could only help!

 

From: Clyde Romero [mailto:clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2015 9:03 AM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 fan tech questions

 

That's backwards 

It should be the other way around 

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On Jul 2, 2015, at 5:09 PM, Peter Pless <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au> wrote:

On my 308 both fans come on from the thermo switch, but just one with the A/C compressor.

 

From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+ferrarilist=pless.com.au [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of Clyde Romero
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2015 6:34 AM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 fan tech questions

 

Ok 

How hot did the car get temp wise?

If it went to 225 or higher you might have serious issues down the road 

Otherwise 

One fan comes on when the thermo switch hits 185 

The other fan only comes on when you switch on the A/C

By pass the circuit and put 12 volts to the fans 

If they spin most likely it a blown fuse

In early 3 series cars you should change clean the fuse box yearly

I use to put that stud that comes in the box which absorbs moisture in my fuse box 

And ECU compartment as well 

Also rotate your relays yearly 

 

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On Jul 2, 2015, at 3:21 PM, Mark <misc [at] 308systems.com> wrote:

Hi Guys

After a spirited drive last weekend, my 85 308 developed a serious overheat problem.  After stopping, I found the fans are not running.  Thus, this weekend will be troubleshooting…

 

Can you verify –

 

1)      If I short the thermostat connector pins, should the fans turn on?

2)      Do both fans always operate, or is there a mode where only 1 fan would turn on?

3)      There are no other components in the fan circuit, just the fans/thermostat connection/elect relay – correct?

4)      Which relay is the fan relay?

 

Thanks,

Mark

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