Ferrari Mailing List: Re: 458 smoke

[Peter Rychel (dino308gt4]

If that's the case (overfilling the oil) that could have been done pre-delivery (by the dealer). Yikes...

Peter

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Sent: March 14, 2016 10:44 PM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 458 smoke

 

I was serious when I said someone overfilled the oil. Happens all too often. If one is unlucky and overfills it too much, the crankcase is full of oil and the engine hydraulically locks. THEN the motor is completely blown....

On 03/14/2016 10:17 PM, Peter Rychel wrote:

Jokes aside, there really shouldn't be ANYTHING coming out of the exhaust on a newer Ferrari, except maybe some condensation as the exhaust piping heats up. Even my 308 will only puff a bit of blue if I haven't driven it in a while and that has 63K mi on it...

93 mi and it smokes? WTF? The motor was probably blown as soon as it rolled off the boat.

Peter

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From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dino308gt4=hotmail.com [at] ferrarilist.com> on behalf of Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
Sent: March 14, 2016 4:54 PM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 458 smoke

 

Smoke comes from HC release from the engine, specifically incomplete combustion. A rich non cat car will smoke. Tough to spark ignite oil, that's why seeing smoke usually is a ring issue. 

Most of what is seen now on poisoning of catalysts is from phosphorus, it's common to accelerate the aging by doping the fuel during testing.  The trick is to keep the temperature of the catalyst below 1050C. Above that and the material science gets "interesting".  Emission durability is country or region specific, with the safety factors that are built in, you should be able to get north of 125k miles with no issues, but it is dependent on the engine calibration.  Your mileage may (and will) vary. 

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On Mar 14, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

yeah but....    275 GTB didn't have cats...

Since this is your arena...  how much damage does one do to a cat when they use the motor to burn off excess oil?   Any longevity impacts?

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From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
To: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 458 smoke

Heritage. There is a little 275 GTB in all the new cars...

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On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:35 PM, clyde romero <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

This weekend I went by FOA to meet a friend

The sales people took out a 2013 black and tan 458 spyder with 93 miles on it to crank it up

Now if you own a 512 TR you know it will smoke if it has not been driven for a while

But I thought they were doing a burn out!

There was a huge cloud of smoke the totally envelope the entire car

I have never seen anything like this ever

I am sorry with a car that has 93 miles on it should not do this

 

PS for those are in the area there will be a memorial for Ted Rutland at his shop on Saturday 6 pm

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