Re: General Ferrari/exotic market cycle
From: Erik Nielsen (judge4regmail.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:22:53 -0700 (PDT)
Ah, “there will be too many”.

Yep, that’s the problem, they made too many of them.  The question is how 
proprietary are the bits that go on a Ferrari compared to the rest of Magnetti 
Marelli and Bosch bits?  I think it is going to be a bigger challenge than most 
think.  Especially if someone is trying to bring one back from the dead.

Let’s face it, there are F40s out there that are not running because of 
electrical component availability.  If someone hasn’t reversed engineered bits 
for a $1 Mio + car yet, do you think that 360s are going to turn into parts 
cars?

If I can pull off getting a ninth/tenth car without my wife buying a wood 
chipper, it will be earlier than what I have today.  Likely something that has 
decent spares availability.  

Erik


> On Mar 22, 2016, at 12:08 AM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Nah, for me, I'm dropping the Ford Coyote 5.0 into the back of a 360... ;)
> 
> The whole electronics thing, I think, will be worked around.
> 
> There are a number of stand-alone, DIY engine management systems available 
> today that can plug-N-play with a lot of OEM sensors and can drive variable 
> valve timing, etc. 
> 
> Where there's a will, there will be a way. There'll be too many of these 
> great cars laying around, that someone out there will reverse-engineer ECUs 
> to make them work again.
> 
> Major metropolises will enforce electric only, but I see it limited only to 
> core city centers. (Physically) bigger countries can't be entirely electric. 
> Also, all of those new electric cars will need to be charged... With 
> existing, aging infrastructure. We're putting more demands on the electric 
> grid now, so how are we going to put more on it in the future? Unless, there 
> are MASSIVE upgrades, I don't see it taking off too soon.
> 
> I don't think it will be as dire as most people predict.
> 
> At 39, I've got time on my side that I think a lot of the great cars that 
> slipped through my hands recently, will come back again :) 
> 
> Peter
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dino308gt4=hotmail.com [at] ferrarilist.com> 
> on behalf of Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net>
> Sent: March 20, 2016 11:28 AM
> To: PeterGT4
> Cc: 'The FerrariList'
> Subject: [Ferrari] FW:  General Ferrari/exotic market cycle
> 
> True true, Erik
> 
> What with modern cars requiring $40,000 in electronic testing equipment – AND 
> the know how to use and diagnose let alone repair – I fear the brink is 
> sometime in late 80’s to early 90’s.  Then the hot set up will be Chevy crate 
> motor adapted to an F360 - - - alas.
> 
> DOUG
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Erik Nielsen"
> Sent 3/20/2016 10:31:33 AM
> To: "DOUG"
> Cc: "The FerrariList"
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] General Ferrari/exotic market cycle
> 
> 30 years from now, most of the “expensive” cars from the 60’s will come back 
> to reality, those that remember them in the day and lusted after them will be 
> dead.  Look what happened to brass era cars.   Even pre-war cars have a very 
> limited following, unless they still have a standing class at major concours 
> events.
> 
> 
> 
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