Re: 1. The last race (Clarence Romero Jr.)
From: Peter Pless (ferrarilistpless.com.au)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 18:22:12 -0700 (PDT)

Let’s wait and see what happens when Hamilton isn’t in a dominant car and out the front controlling the race. No one in my time of watching F1 has come straight into a top car like Hamilton did. That’s part of what skews his statistics. Funny how Hamilton’s brilliance disappears once the car isn’t dominant.

 

Funny how he’s never really done anything exceptional and beyond belief like the legends have in cars that shouldn’t have been able to do what was done….like Schumacher when his car was stuck in 5th, or Vettel winning a race in the wet in the Torro Rosso.

 

Rosberg was considered by many to be a so so driver, yet he beat Hamilton regularly. So did Button, also considered an average driver.

When was Alonso or Schumacher or Senna or Prost (apart from Senna v Prost) regularly beaten by their team mate?

 

To ridicule his driving is absurd, of course, but there isn’t a driver in F1 who isn’t beyond excellent.

 

What irks me is the twists and turns used by his blind fanboys to prove that he’s the best of the field and probably the best ever. The bare numbers don’t tell the whole story. I don’t think he’s as good as he thinks he is

 

 

From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+ferrarilist=pless.com.au [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2018 7:48 PM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1. The last race (Clarence Romero Jr.)

 

Rick, if it does, then take comfort in knowing he has it.

 

I met him once before a race and he was polite and talkative when he clearly didn’t need to be. He was also extremely confident as required by his job.

 

A friend socializes with him 2-3 times each year. He also says the same...polite, well mannered but a real hard nosed winner.

 

I was not crazy about him ten years ago but have changed my attitude after watching him decimate the competition over and over.

 

Then I watched him drive a NASCAR really well and learned that he owns a real 427 Cobra because it is a real car.

 

Or, how he had a special Pagani Zonda commissioned with three pedals.

 

When he is in the driver’s seat, only results matter.

 

His choice in hairstyles or clothing doesn’t.

 

Do we now need to penalize him for choosing the right teams and/or being able to consistently develop a top level car?

 

So, a skilled driver who can’t pick the right team to sign with is somehow “better”?

 

This is positively hilarious to me.

 

Winning a championship is only part driving. You need brains, fitness and technical ability as well. 

 

MS was a great driver...one of the best. Maybe he was missing some brains when he picked the terrible Ferrari but his technical ability allowed him to develop the car into a champ. He had the driving ability and fitness as well.

 

LH has it all it seems. 

 

To criticize his perfection at *winning* and misconstrue that as a lack of driving ability is giving me a good laugh.

 

Maybe we should DM him and suggest he send fruit baskets to the last placing drivers and start wearing turtle necks for us?

 

 

 

 

 


On Aug 30, 2018, at 02:28, Jeff Kennedy <jkennedy.design [at] gmail.com> wrote:

I see Hamilton as a great driver when he is given a superior car.  What I question is if he can actually "race" head to head when his equipment isn't top class of the field.  Schumacher could in the period before Ferrari was all conquering.  Mandela man handled a car into contention.  Even Max V has shown he can make more out of his equipment than it was supposed to have.  I have a suspicion that Hamilton doesn't have the mental strength to survive racing in mid field.

 

I do grant that he is a spectacular qualifirler.

 

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 8:54 PM Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org> wrote:

Bingo.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 5:11 PM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:
> Because to some of us, character still matters...
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> To: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1. The last race (Clarence Romero Jr.)
>
> Why are you guys looking at his hair and jewelry?
>
> What’s next? His pants are too tight?
>
> All that matters is the stopwatch and the podiums...not how he does it.
>
> He is a multiple F1 champ and will be remembered as one of the best ever.
>
> Why don’t we give everyone a ribbon for participation and hugs for all?
>
>
>
> On Aug 29, 2018, at 04:19, Brian Keegan <bks281 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Very much agree with your assessment Dick!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 28, 2018, at 10:55 PM, Dick Petrick <rtpetrick [at] comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Clyde,
> I agree with you about Lewis. Without a superior car, he is not much. I’ve
> never felt good about him as a Formula One Champ.
> You can also see that he is really becoming something else….with the corn
> braids, nose piercing, and the ear diamond studs.
> Perhaps his mentality is better suited for the NBA……..or the NFL.
>
> Regards,
> Dick Petrick
>
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