Re: 1. The last race (Clarence Romero Jr.)
From: Rick Moseley (ramoselpacbell.net)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 19:59:43 -0700 (PDT)
Lash,
Glad I could make you laugh....  I stand on my statement.

Clyde, Brian and I have a friend in Formula at a (very) high technical level who interacts with the people who work with Mr. Hamilton (and others) on a day to day basis.  They tell a much different story.  How he acts when he has to is far from how he acts when he doesn't.  How he acts at the track is far from how he acts away.  I doubt when he retires that he'll get the same response on his walk through the pits that was given Massa.

And no, I could care less about his hair styles, jewelry or turtlenecks (or lack thereof).  Appearance does not make the man (at least those I respect)

To emphasize cLyDe's point, drivers like MS, Alonzo, Senna, Hunt, Clark, Fangio, Prost, Stewart, even Lauda... could, and often had to, wring more out of a lesser car than the car had in it.   Hamilton only succeeds when he can wring 100% out of the car he is in and that car is a just bit better than the rest. Don't get me wrong, he is very good at that.  Listen to his in car conversations... when faced with adversity, he often wants to retire the car. 



From: Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
To: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 2:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1. The last race (Clarence Romero Jr.)

Rick, if it does, then take comfort in knowing he has it.

I met him once before a race and he was polite and talkative when he clearly didn’t need to be. He was also extremely confident as required by his job.

A friend socializes with him 2-3 times each year. He also says the same...polite, well mannered but a real hard nosed winner.

I was not crazy about him ten years ago but have changed my attitude after watching him decimate the competition over and over.

Then I watched him drive a NASCAR really well and learned that he owns a real 427 Cobra because it is a real car.

Or, how he had a special Pagani Zonda commissioned with three pedals.

When he is in the driver’s seat, only results matter.

His choice in hairstyles or clothing doesn’t.

Do we now need to penalize him for choosing the right teams and/or being able to consistently develop a top level car?

So, a skilled driver who can’t pick the right team to sign with is somehow “better”?

This is positively hilarious to me.

Winning a championship is only part driving. You need brains, fitness and technical ability as well. 

MS was a great driver...one of the best. Maybe he was missing some brains when he picked the terrible Ferrari but his technical ability allowed him to develop the car into a champ. He had the driving ability and fitness as well.

LH has it all it seems. 

To criticize his perfection at *winning* and misconstrue that as a lack of driving ability is giving me a good laugh.

Maybe we should DM him and suggest he send fruit baskets to the last placing drivers and start wearing turtle necks for us?






On Aug 30, 2018, at 02:28, Jeff Kennedy <jkennedy.design [at] gmail.com> wrote:

I see Hamilton as a great driver when he is given a superior car.  What I question is if he can actually "race" head to head when his equipment isn't top class of the field.  Schumacher could in the period before Ferrari was all conquering.  Mandela man handled a car into contention.  Even Max V has shown he can make more out of his equipment than it was supposed to have.  I have a suspicion that Hamilton doesn't have the mental strength to survive racing in mid field.

I do grant that he is a spectacular qualifirler.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 8:54 PM Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org> wrote:
Bingo.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 5:11 PM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:
> Because to some of us, character still matters...
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> To: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1. The last race (Clarence Romero Jr.)
>
> Why are you guys looking at his hair and jewelry?
>
> What’s next? His pants are too tight?
>
> All that matters is the stopwatch and the podiums...not how he does it.
>
> He is a multiple F1 champ and will be remembered as one of the best ever.
>
> Why don’t we give everyone a ribbon for participation and hugs for all?
>
>
>
> On Aug 29, 2018, at 04:19, Brian Keegan <bks281 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Very much agree with your assessment Dick!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 28, 2018, at 10:55 PM, Dick Petrick <rtpetrick [at] comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Clyde,
> I agree with you about Lewis. Without a superior car, he is not much. I’ve
> never felt good about him as a Formula One Champ.
> You can also see that he is really becoming something else….with the corn
> braids, nose piercing, and the ear diamond studs.
> Perhaps his mentality is better suited for the NBA……..or the NFL.
>
> Regards,
> Dick Petrick
>
>
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