Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Fwd: Try this again Audi R8 vs BMW i8

[Clarence Romero Jr. (clyderomerof4]

I am sorry to hear about your friends issue with his car

But I am now vindicated once again, because there are those who feel that I slight cars that are not red.

Having been around a plethora of vehicles in my 69 plus years I think I know what I am talking about!

Anyway the quality control issues with Audi are historically bad, they are the bottom end of what Mercedes is, if that makes any sense,  and there parts department is as bad as McClearen (sic) don’t ask me how I know

There is a ghetto somewhere for that car, and he can leave the keys in it !

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Clyde Romero    

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On Jan 22, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Martin Stark <mstark [at] copper.net> wrote:

If you want a go fast Audi you may want to consider either an RS6performance or an S8plus - same engine. I recently purchased the S8plus. It has push your eyeballs back acceleration that can be simultaneously enjoyed by 5 adults. 

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On Jan 22, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Steve Noble <snoble [at] sonn.com> wrote:

A friend of mine ran into issues with his R8 .. nightmare.

>From his post:

That's a V-10 R8 in case you can't tell. 18k miles. Audi USA and Audi engineers in Europe cannot figure out what went wrong with it. After owning it for about 30 days it decided to throw an error that they can't explain. Audi requires >$8,100 just to take it apart and to attempt to figure out what the error is. Note that this does $8k does not guarantee that they will find out what the issue is. It also does not cover any repairs, parts or re-assembly.

Audi keeps telling me that this is "our flagship car and we will figure it out", but I am footing the bill for them to learn how to disassemble and diagnose their own car. They have had VTCs with the engineers in Germany but cannot explain the issue between the local certified R8 tech, the regional R8 tech or the ones in Germany. They literally told me that they are recording the disassembly because they want to make sure they know how to re-assemble it later. Which, you may recall, is not included in the $8k diagnosis charge.

Good news. The Audi of America HQ dealer just called to tell me that a bolt deep inside the engine (holding a "spur gear") broke off. Apparently it was damaged quite a while (and has been doing damage the entire time), and finally broke off. On the upside, their estimate is $66,500.00 to repair it, and they can be done roughly 30 days after a new engine gets shipped to the USA. Nobody at Audi has ever seen it before, and they can't explain it, so it's super interesting and exciting for all involved.

Rick Moseley wrote on 1/22/19 5:44 PM:

Not to mention the problems with the magnetic shocks and cracked suspension mounts on the unibody.

Although, the guys who don't play the OEM game are having great luck with going to aftermarket shocks, springs, and modules to kill the suspension electronic errors.

A couple I know actually prefer the handling at track events over the mag shocks.

On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 5:13:15 PM PST, Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:

Coil packs and ignition parts fail often on the R8s.

Also, no low end torque on the V10!

On Jan 22, 2019, at 20:08, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Stay away from the R-8

Oil consumption issues as well as quality control problems

When I was a tech at an independent shop they had 2 of them 

Always had check engine lights on

If you have to have one 

Get a used one and try to get a factory warranty 

Good luck but I would rather go to Vegas and find a hooker with the money

At least I know what I was getting 

Clyde Romero

If you have no enemies

You have no character ! 

Scars are tattoos with better stories!

When you're out of F-4's you're out of fighters!

On Jan 22, 2019, at 7:57 PM, Gavin <gavinnz [at] xtra.co.nz> wrote:

Known issues..... German.

Years to avoid errr all??

VIVA ITALIA!!!

:)

"sorry for the voice recognition glitch... I'm just looking for a feedback on adding either an Audi R8 or a BMW i8 to the go-fast side of my garage. Any known issues or years to avoid?

Thanks

Mark"

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