Re: Competition
From: Lashdeep Singh (lashdeepyahoo.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 14:03:01 -0700 (PDT)
Hans, 1:32 at RA is superb!

I had some extended track time in a C7 Grand Sport last weekend...what a 
machine.

Fastest time of the day was another C7 GS.



> On Jul 21, 2019, at 13:20, Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org> wrote:
> 
> Again -
> 
> Atlanta.  Summer.  Race track.  Low 1:32 lap time in a Z06.
> 
> No overheatinng issues whatsoever.  And that's with the A/C on.  He
> runs with the windows open, but blowing cold air on his fire suit
> helps in 100deg heat.
> 
> Only heat related issue was that the brake rotors would have to be
> replaced every other weekend.  Switched to some high tech rotor, and
> hasn't had a problem since.
> 
> In the pits, he's more concerned with moving the car around a bit to
> avoid permanently flat spotting the tires than he is with cooling off
> the car.
> 
> Hans.
> 
>> On 7/21/19, Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:
>> Clyde-
>> 
>> We started it by popping 308 and TR hoods at the track.
>> 
>> Nobody did it before.
>> 
>> Modern cars with modern emissions equip run much hotter than our vintage
>> cars.
>> 
>> A really fast driver will heat up any modern car at a summer track event.
>> 
>> Hood up is a must for anything.
>> 
>> Even if you are slow, it still looks cool to pop the hood like the really
>> fast drivers.
>> 
>> I hope you are right about turning the electronics off.
>> 
>> Finally a new performance car that could kill you if your skills are off.
>> 
>> Fingers crossed...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2019, at 07:38, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] 
>>> gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We will see Lash
>>> They didn’t put 3 radiators in the car for nothing
>>> All the modern day cars are thermally challenged from the Ferrari 355
>>> going forward
>>> The last Ferrari that had North Africa type cooling systems were the
>>> 308/328 they had real radiators
>>> Lamborghini and the gay shoe box are the worst (read McClaren sic), and
>>> don’t leave out the NSX and the GTR as well
>>> Down here in the south it’s a different kettle of fish with regards to
>>> heat and humidity
>>> As for the modern day vettes not overheating
>>> I bet when they pit they open the hood and leave the key on for the fans
>>> to work!
>>> My guess is the coolant over flow tank in a Vette is as big as the gas
>>> tank !
>>> 
>>> It will be fun to get the first YouTube video of the new Vette driver
>>> losing control and totaling the plastic mid engine GM wonder car
>>> No doubt it will be some PRO FROM DOVER disabling all the stuff to keep
>>> you safe.
>>> 
>>> If only cars were self cleansing like aviation!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     RF4-4EVR
>>> 
>>> Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
>>> 
>>> If you have no enemies, you have no character !
>>> 
>>> Clyde Romero
>>> 
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>>>> On Jul 20, 2019, at 11:51 PM, Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Clyde, save your money.
>>>> 
>>>> Only the early C7 Z06s had heat problems.
>>>> 
>>>> Later ones are fine.
>>>> 
>>>> C7 ZR1s are fine.
>>>> 
>>>> C7 Grand Sports are fine (and one of the best handling sports cars at any
>>>> price).
>>>> 
>>>> C6 ZR1s are fine.
>>>> 
>>>> New car will be a monster in typical GM fashion.
>>>> 
>>>> Ferrari will be very smart to buy technology from it like they have done
>>>> before.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 20, 2019, at 20:46, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] 
>>>>> gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> My money says it will overheat when driven hard like the current one
>>>>> does
>>>>> Forget about stop and go traffic in the south in the summer
>>>>> It’s a Chernobyl car!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>     RF4-4EVR
>>>>> 
>>>>> Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have no enemies, you have no character !
>>>>> 
>>>>> Clyde Romero
>>>>> 
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>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2019, at 3:35 PM, Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They took the middle ground with the tranny.  It's not a true auto -
>>>>>> no torque converter.  It's a dual clutch 8 speed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So: true manual - out.  True auto - out.  But shifts are said to be
>>>>>> instantaneous enough that acceleration feels constant, and the shifts
>>>>>> are "invisible on a 100 hertz data logger" - according to Alex
>>>>>> MacDonald, an engineer on the project.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All the cars are now dry sump.  All service is done with engine in
>>>>>> place
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hans.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 7/20/19, cmlf1 [at] optonline.net <cmlf1 [at] optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> I am not a Corvette fan but the performance value has been unbeatable
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>> the last 20 years and they stepped up their game with the C8. They may
>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>> a bite of some  Porsche sales as this is less than Boxter or Cayman
>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>> but so is the current C7.
>>>>>>> They have eliminated the manual gearbox so the C7 manuals will be
>>>>>>> strong
>>>>>>> value holders for the next few years.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone- Please excuse brevity or typographical errors.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2019, at 2:48 PM, Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Uh, yeah.  Kind of has a familiar look about it.....
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Car and Driver:  $60k.  sub 3 second 0-60.  495hp in the base model.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> At that price point, it should be a big seller.  The current C7
>>>>>>>> model
>>>>>>>> is very popular, I see them everywhere.  Much more common than the
>>>>>>>> C6
>>>>>>>> or C5 ever were.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hans.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/19, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Does someone need to remind GM to keep their eyes on their own
>>>>>>>>> paper?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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