Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Competition

[Hans E. Hansen (FList]

Just happened to be texting with my son.  He is showing off the
homemade splitter he's made for his Corvette.

Asked more specifically about cooling issues on Corvettes.  Mind you,
he's around a couple of dozen of them on race tracks on most summer
weekends.

He said none of the naturally aspirated cars made in the last 20 years
have any issues.  But he has seen some of the supercharged C7 ZR1
(755hp) overheat after extended runs on hot days.  About 15 minutes of
track running in 100deg temp seems to be the limit. Cooler days are
OK.

Hans.

On 7/21/19, Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:
> Clyde-
>
> We started it by popping 308 and TR hoods at the track.
>
> Nobody did it before.
>
> Modern cars with modern emissions equip run much hotter than our vintage
> cars.
>
> A really fast driver will heat up any modern car at a summer track event.
>
> Hood up is a must for anything.
>
> Even if you are slow, it still looks cool to pop the hood like the really
> fast drivers.
>
> I hope you are right about turning the electronics off.
>
> Finally a new performance car that could kill you if your skills are off.
>
> Fingers crossed...
>
>
>
>> On Jul 21, 2019, at 07:38, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> We will see Lash
>> They didn’t put 3 radiators in the car for nothing
>> All the modern day cars are thermally challenged from the Ferrari 355
>> going forward
>> The last Ferrari that had North Africa type cooling systems were the
>> 308/328 they had real radiators
>> Lamborghini and the gay shoe box are the worst (read McClaren sic), and
>> don’t leave out the NSX and the GTR as well
>> Down here in the south it’s a different kettle of fish with regards to
>> heat and humidity
>> As for the modern day vettes not overheating
>> I bet when they pit they open the hood and leave the key on for the fans
>> to work!
>> My guess is the coolant over flow tank in a Vette is as big as the gas
>> tank !
>>
>> It will be fun to get the first YouTube video of the new Vette driver
>> losing control and totaling the plastic mid engine GM wonder car
>> No doubt it will be some PRO FROM DOVER disabling all the stuff to keep
>> you safe.
>>
>> If only cars were self cleansing like aviation!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>      RF4-4EVR
>>
>> Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
>>
>> If you have no enemies, you have no character !
>>
>> Clyde Romero
>>
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>>> On Jul 20, 2019, at 11:51 PM, Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Clyde, save your money.
>>>
>>> Only the early C7 Z06s had heat problems.
>>>
>>> Later ones are fine.
>>>
>>> C7 ZR1s are fine.
>>>
>>> C7 Grand Sports are fine (and one of the best handling sports cars at any
>>> price).
>>>
>>> C6 ZR1s are fine.
>>>
>>> New car will be a monster in typical GM fashion.
>>>
>>> Ferrari will be very smart to buy technology from it like they have done
>>> before.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jul 20, 2019, at 20:46, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] 
>>>> gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My money says it will overheat when driven hard like the current one
>>>> does
>>>> Forget about stop and go traffic in the south in the summer
>>>> It’s a Chernobyl car!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      RF4-4EVR
>>>>
>>>> Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
>>>>
>>>> If you have no enemies, you have no character !
>>>>
>>>> Clyde Romero
>>>>
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>>>>> On Jul 20, 2019, at 3:35 PM, Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> They took the middle ground with the tranny.  It's not a true auto -
>>>>> no torque converter.  It's a dual clutch 8 speed.
>>>>>
>>>>> So: true manual - out.  True auto - out.  But shifts are said to be
>>>>> instantaneous enough that acceleration feels constant, and the shifts
>>>>> are "invisible on a 100 hertz data logger" - according to Alex
>>>>> MacDonald, an engineer on the project.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the cars are now dry sump.  All service is done with engine in
>>>>> place
>>>>>
>>>>> Hans.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/20/19, cmlf1 [at] optonline.net <cmlf1 [at] optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>> I am not a Corvette fan but the performance value has been unbeatable
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> the last 20 years and they stepped up their game with the C8. They may
>>>>>> take
>>>>>> a bite of some  Porsche sales as this is less than Boxter or Cayman
>>>>>> money
>>>>>> but so is the current C7.
>>>>>> They have eliminated the manual gearbox so the C7 manuals will be
>>>>>> strong
>>>>>> value holders for the next few years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone- Please excuse brevity or typographical errors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2019, at 2:48 PM, Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Uh, yeah.  Kind of has a familiar look about it.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Car and Driver:  $60k.  sub 3 second 0-60.  495hp in the base model.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At that price point, it should be a big seller.  The current C7
>>>>>>> model
>>>>>>> is very popular, I see them everywhere.  Much more common than the
>>>>>>> C6
>>>>>>> or C5 ever were.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/20/19, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Does someone need to remind GM to keep their eyes on their own
>>>>>>>> paper?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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