Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 157, Issue 30

[Jashburne (jashburne]

Cody:  

Wow, an actual new member to this old fashioned email list!

Tell us a bit about yourself if you like. 

Welcome!

John

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> On Aug 7, 2019, at 7:56 PM, Cody Laird via Ferrari <ferrari [at] 
> ferrarilist.com> wrote:
> 
> Odd as I’ve spent a lot of time with someone who claims to be named Clyde. 
> Whoever he is, he’s an enjoyable chap. 
> 
> Sent from my PDP-8
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> 
>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 7:29 PM, scott saidel <Scott_Saidel [at] hotmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Welcome Cody.
>> 
>> There is no cLyDe.
>> 
>> Scottie
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Cody Laird via Ferrari <ferrari [at] 
>>> ferrarilist.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is the main reason I will only lease new vehicles or buy older 
>>> vehicles that do not require proprietary stuff or can be retrofitted with 
>>> off the shelf and easily available replacements. Now with that said I do 
>>> own a couple of Ferrari’s among other cars that may fall into that category 
>>> in a few years; an ‘89 Mondial t coupe and ’90 348tb. Queue the Clyde’isms, 
>>> ha ha. 
>>> 
>>> I personally hope that one day the car manufactures are required to provide 
>>> free or for a reasonable fee, whatever that may be is subjective, to owners 
>>> of the vehicles the proprietary software needed to replicate and/or 
>>> diagnose the systems after the components are no longer manufactured. 
>>> 
>>> In case no one noticed this is my first reply to the list after “listening” 
>>> for over a year to the great commentary and banter. Thank you Clyde for 
>>> telling me about it. 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Cody Laird
>>> Atlanta
>>> 
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 19:40:44 +0000
>>>> From: Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com>
>>>> To: Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net>
>>>> Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Realistic prices are retuning
>>>> Message-ID:
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>>>> MWHPR02MB3277.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> Of course.
>>>> 
>>>> But ? and that?s a big BUT ? what makes it harder is that Ferrari has 
>>>> proprietary codes for all of the body controls, plus other drivetrain 
>>>> stuff that?s not covered in the open, emissions-accessible OBD area.
>>>> 
>>>> While there are still working ECUs out there, they?d have to be ?cracked? 
>>>> open and reverse-engineered.
>>>> 
>>>> It?s still a small market and somebody will have to pay for all of that.
>>>> 
>>>> There?s only one consumer-grade full scanner available (Leonardo) and it?s 
>>>> five figures. Might as well spring a couple more grand and get the genuine 
>>>> Ferrari scanner... If you can find one.
>>>> 
>>>> Hopefully by then, the aftermarket crowd will just come up a plug-and-play 
>>>> system that can drive all of that and one can ditch all of the Marelli 
>>>> stuff altogether. That?s the route I?d take...
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
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