Re: Ford vs Ferrari
From: Doug & Terri (dntdock.net)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 19:09:27 -0700 (PDT)
Drivers heads turning to watch a wreck . . . covered quite well in one plate in 
Robert Daley's book - "The Cruel Sport."  His seminal picture book should be a 
part of any GP aficionados library.  The coverage is mostly from the late 50's 
to early 60's.  Between 20 and 30 bucks, used, postpaid, hard cover from 
Abebooks.com.  so it's used - it's not like George Costanza took it the WC.

If you have access to the book, look for picture 156.  The drivers aren’t named 
but Ricardo Rodriguez (Ferrari 246P Shark Nose) trailing Phil Hill has his head 
screwed left looking at Willy Mairesse's upside down and burning Ferrari 246P 
Shark Nose.  And Phil Hill, in his 246P Shark Nose, is laser visioned straight 
ahead and pulling away.  In the movie - Yves Montand plays the Phil Hill 
montage about pressing his foot down harder in the wake of a horrible accident.

Yep, the movie Gran Prix is grand.  Skip the saccharin love story and follow 
the progress of the movie - it goes from "don’t get in our way" to "Hey - I 
wanna be in THAT movie - a song sung by the real drivers of the time.  And 
later - Taa Taaa.  See Scott Stoddard drive a real BRM H-16 engined Lotus.  I 
believe Robert Daley was asked to write the movie but part way through was 
bounced.  Shot using 50 mm lenses rather than today's wide angles which "push" 
a car that is mere inches away from the photo car to yards away.  And the music 
- Maurice Jarre did a right fine job. 

Think I'll dig out my copy.  Thank Mike -

Doug



-----Original Message-----
From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On 
Behalf Of Michel Savard
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 4:58 PM
To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
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Subject: [Ferrari] Ford vs Ferrari

>From the clips I saw, there seems to be a lot of computer generated shots. I 
>hate those. RUSH had a lot of them, so did Stallone’s movie and most action 
>modern movies. It all looks so fake, so easy to spot. It’s ridiculous.
There is also a shot of Miles actually turning his head almost backwards in his 
cockpit to look at an accident that just happened. No racing driver turns his 
head while driving at over 100 mph. Any film maker who wants to make a racing 
movie should be forced to watch GRAND PRIX. The 1967 movie by John 
Frankenheimer. Not only forced to watch the movie, but also THE MAKING OF THE 
MOVIE on the compact disc. They didn’t have computers back then. Still the 
racing looks so real. Greatest racing movie ever. And, there is a story to 
follow. I remember James Garner barely moving his eyes sideways after seeing an 
accident, NOT turning his head backwards

If you want the real story, the book GO LIKE HELL by A.J. Baime (ISBN 
978-0-618-82219-5) is the book (300 pages) to read. It starts from day one when 
FORD decided, after his frustration of not being able to buy Ferrari in 1963, 
to go all out and BUY Lemans to the 4th win in a row in 1969.

Ken Miles appears a lot in the preview. I hope they do him justice in the movie 
because he got screwed big time at the end. He should have won the 1966 race 
not McLaren/Hulme. He had developed the car, won Daytona and Sebring. He 
deserved it.

Michael Savard (1981 308 GTSi)
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