Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ford vs Ferrari

[Lashdeep Singh (lashdeep]

Agree on Grand Prix. I recently watched it for the first time in 15 yrs and it 
is aging superbly.

The cinematography, scene composition and editing are fantastic.

It is a visually stunning film that looks even better today when compared to 
the heavily CGI-ed modern offerings.



> On Sep 9, 2019, at 22:08, Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
> 
> Drivers heads turning to watch a wreck . . . covered quite well in one plate 
> in Robert Daley's book - "The Cruel Sport."  His seminal picture book should 
> be a part of any GP aficionados library.  The coverage is mostly from the 
> late 50's to early 60's.  Between 20 and 30 bucks, used, postpaid, hard cover 
> from Abebooks.com.  so it's used - it's not like George Costanza took it the 
> WC.
> 
> If you have access to the book, look for picture 156.  The drivers aren’t 
> named but Ricardo Rodriguez (Ferrari 246P Shark Nose) trailing Phil Hill has 
> his head screwed left looking at Willy Mairesse's upside down and burning 
> Ferrari 246P Shark Nose.  And Phil Hill, in his 246P Shark Nose, is laser 
> visioned straight ahead and pulling away.  In the movie - Yves Montand plays 
> the Phil Hill montage about pressing his foot down harder in the wake of a 
> horrible accident.
> 
> Yep, the movie Gran Prix is grand.  Skip the saccharin love story and follow 
> the progress of the movie - it goes from "don’t get in our way" to "Hey - I 
> wanna be in THAT movie - a song sung by the real drivers of the time.  And 
> later - Taa Taaa.  See Scott Stoddard drive a real BRM H-16 engined Lotus.  I 
> believe Robert Daley was asked to write the movie but part way through was 
> bounced.  Shot using 50 mm lenses rather than today's wide angles which 
> "push" a car that is mere inches away from the photo car to yards away.  And 
> the music - Maurice Jarre did a right fine job. 
> 
> Think I'll dig out my copy.  Thank Mike -
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On 
> Behalf Of Michel Savard
> Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 4:58 PM
> To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: [Ferrari] Ford vs Ferrari
> 
>> From the clips I saw, there seems to be a lot of computer generated shots. I 
>> hate those. RUSH had a lot of them, so did Stallone’s movie and most action 
>> modern movies. It all looks so fake, so easy to spot. It’s ridiculous.
> There is also a shot of Miles actually turning his head almost backwards in 
> his cockpit to look at an accident that just happened. No racing driver turns 
> his head while driving at over 100 mph. Any film maker who wants to make a 
> racing movie should be forced to watch GRAND PRIX. The 1967 movie by John 
> Frankenheimer. Not only forced to watch the movie, but also THE MAKING OF THE 
> MOVIE on the compact disc. They didn’t have computers back then. Still the 
> racing looks so real. Greatest racing movie ever. And, there is a story to 
> follow. I remember James Garner barely moving his eyes sideways after seeing 
> an accident, NOT turning his head backwards
> 
> If you want the real story, the book GO LIKE HELL by A.J. Baime (ISBN 
> 978-0-618-82219-5) is the book (300 pages) to read. It starts from day one 
> when FORD decided, after his frustration of not being able to buy Ferrari in 
> 1963, to go all out and BUY Lemans to the 4th win in a row in 1969.
> 
> Ken Miles appears a lot in the preview. I hope they do him justice in the 
> movie because he got screwed big time at the end. He should have won the 1966 
> race not McLaren/Hulme. He had developed the car, won Daytona and Sebring. He 
> deserved it.
> 
> Michael Savard (1981 308 GTSi)
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