Re: New Type of Fire Extinguisher
From: Clarence Romero Jr. (clyderomerof4gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 05:36:33 -0700 (PDT)
Thanks Scottie for the back up
Seen to many fires on the flight line and in combat 
The worst is a car under hood fire 
Leave it closed 
But no the idiots open it and give it what it desperately needs 
OXYGEN! 
Crack the hood and use the fire extinguisher 
It’s not rocket science 
But these are the people who have a hard time using Velcro!
Ask anyone who has seen a kitchen Grease fire where all you have Is cover it with a top to smother it 
Panic is the theme 
And your spot on with Halon 



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On Jun 4, 2020, at 8:05 AM, scott saidel <scott_saidel [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

 cLyDe:

FWIW, I volunteered fire rescue for years.

Helped train a couple hundred people how to use canister fire extinguishers.  I’d venture that, going in, maybe a dozen knew to aim at the base of the fire and sweep back and forth - the basics of the basics.  Most thought they were watering their garden, may as well throw the can AT the fire.

Completely agree with cLyDe - for most people fire = panic.  FWIW, I’m in that group.  LOVE rescue - scared s***less of fire.  

Type ABC powder extinguishers are good (and common) because they are somewhat idiot proof.  Spread enough of the agent and you’ll slow or stop the fire.  But the powder gets EVERYWHERE and is kinda nasty - it will dissolve paint, rubber, and plastic.

The Halotron extinguishers leave no mess, but are difficult to use and potentially dangerous.  They work best when you have a sealed environment like a computer room or engine room - just get everyone out first and vent thoroughly before going back in.  Those extinguishers displace oxygen - so in an outside environment you need to get right up to the base of the fire and “chase" it out - without breathing the agent, or it will displace the oxygen in your lungs.

If you’ve never used a can, contact your local fire department.  They are generally more than happy to show you the right / safe way.

scottie

On Jun 4, 2020, at 6:37 AM, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Well here is my take on this having been around a couple of fires
Fires cause panic 
The fact that you have to remove a cap an use the cap to strike the thing to get it started will be a chore for the majority of people 
And I am willing to guess most would drop the striker cap and it will roll some where 
Then what?
Emergency equip should be single action, period like a normal fire extinguisher
In other words you can’t F@ck it up even if you tried
You pull a pin and press the trigger 
No cap to remove and strike and hope it goes off !

Back to the news ! 



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On Jun 3, 2020, at 10:16 PM, Charles Perry <charles [at] carolinasound.com> wrote:


Any of you seen this? Maybe even used it?
 
The Halon units I have in my cars are pretty old now. Their pressure meters still read good, but this seems like a pretty cool backup.
 
 
 
 

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