You will be keeping the 308 hopefully?
If you are feeling nostalgic and have some time and money to burn through, you could try a Porsche Cayman or an E36M3.
That era of M3 is so cheap to buy and own.
You will be fixing things regularly though.
If you want modern technology and design, there are other options.
Lotus Elise/Exige or Evora.
CG’s C7 Vette idea is superb...
On Aug 10, 2020, at 00:04, Mark <misc [at] 308systems.com> wrote:
Right now I would like to go for fun, but I am pretty competitive......since this is my first foray into a dedicated track experience I don't want to put a lot of money into it until I see what kind of results I can get, that's the under $50K vehicles are fairly attractive
Thoughts?
Mark
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-------- Original message -------- From: Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Date: 8/9/20 9:12 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Mark <misc [at] 308systems.com> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Radical versus Stohr?
Mark, what is your budget?
Are you going for all out speed (laptimes, data logging, etc.) or just fun?
On Aug 8, 2020, at 19:31, Charles Perry <charles [at] carolinasound.com> wrote:
I don’t think Dennis has had a crash of any significance in the car. He did have a significant engine fire last year, and of course that came with an “off”
as he abandoned the car. Safety crews did a good job and so the damage was limited to the motor, surrounding accessories and the bodywork above. He’s had it rebuilt and it’s circuit worthy again, although I don’t think he’s had an opportunity to run it this
year between COVID, travel and his oldest daughter starting out on the track.
I think your pricing for the C7 is way high. I bought my 2015 Z06 30 months ago for $68k. That was a solid deal at the time for a 4,000 mile car. A Grand Sport
or Stingray should be a significant discount off that, and there’s COVID bargains to be had now if you’re not too picky about colors and such.
-- charles
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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Radical versus Stohr?
Thanks for the heads up Scottie, sure wish Dennis was still in the group to give some feedback...
And thanks for all the suggestions, I ran a quick ballpark internet performance and cost survey, with these rough results. Of course it has nothing to do with the handling of the vehicle with just the power to weight ratio and acquisition
cost...
food for thought... Not quite sure where I'm headed but it seems like it'll be a fun time....
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From: scott saidel <Scott_Saidel [at] Hotmail.com>
Date: 8/8/20 6:25 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: Mark <misc [at] 308systems.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Radical versus Stohr?
I agree about the cheap car. For straight up fun, Miata. Easy to own, cheap to repair and the SPECMiata class SCCA has a giant schedule and always plenty of competition.
Something bad happened to Dennis in the Radical. Don’t remember if it was failure or crash, but the car was smashed. Dennis was bruised but otherwise fine. Until then, everything Dennis had posted about the car was praise.
Scottie
I don’t know if he’s still lurking here, but Dennis Liu has a Radical. I haven’t got to drive it yet, but he says it’s pretty spectacular, although a little
brutal on the body to drive. Some tracks require arm straps, which makes it difficult to give point bys (although there may not be many of those once you get to know the car J).
I don’t know your skill level or history, but most instructors and programs say that you’ll learn a lot more a lot more quickly by buying a car that has lower
power and fewer driver’s aids – Miata, E36 M3, Boxster/Cayman. When I started to get into track events seriously I started shopping for a 987.2 Cayman. It got some modifications that make it more track appropriate versus the earlier 987. Cheap to buy and to
run. Some tracks have restrictions against convertibles that don’t have hardtops or cages, which is why it makes more sense than a Boxster.
For better or worse, while shopping for the Cayman I took out a Corvette C7-Z06. Fell hard for it and bought it as my track car. I’ve been running it for about 2.5 years now and absolutely love it. It needed a few minor mods for track reliability, but it will
run away from almost any street car except GT Porsches. You could save a bunch of money buying a Grand Sport, which gives you all the track goodies without the supercharger. Exceptional performer for the money.
Anything that gets you on the track is a good choice! Good luck.
After an awesome track experience, I've decided to retire my 308 from the racetrack, but still have the bug!
I was thinking about a Boxster track car and then local Ferrari guru suggested either a Radical or Stohr dedicated track car...
Do you guys have any experience with either of those, or others?
From the web info, both look awesome....490bhp/ton, 0-60 3.5sec, etc....
Thanks!
Mark
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