Ferrari Mailing List: Re: V12 308 - Recipe for Smoked Testarossa?

[Erik Nielsen (judge4re]

Ah, that’s tradition that money just can’t buy...

To paraphrase Carlin, Ferraris are dreams, because you’d have to be asleep to believe some of this stuff.

On Aug 11, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:



I came in the glass shop where I was getting my new 308 GTS windshield fitted.

#3 windshield fit pretty good but #4 was better.  Not too many nails.

 

Fellow who drove the hot rod Ferrari is a body man – picked up what was a POS without an engine and “Fixed” it.

He swore he has the hood and bumpers.

 

Speaking of hoods  - - - many years ago I was at Griswold’s in Berkeley, CA and one of the fellows had just returned from San Francisco airport with a large box – a hood for a 275 I think.  The techs open the box and lo and behold – yep, a big chunk of aluminum sheet with a hood stamped out in the middle with all the flashing still attached and big roll of wire.  Gotta love factory support.  In retrospect – probably not a bad idea since each car was different by, oh, an inch or so.

:  )

Doug

 

From: Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 2:09 PM
To: Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: V12 308 - Recipe for Smoked Testarossa?

 

Doug, that sled (or at least a car identical to it) lived in the DC area for many years.                                                                                                                                       

 

It was pretty wild!

On Aug 11, 2020, at 16:08, Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:



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Hubba hubba

Doug

 

From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com> On Behalf Of Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 12:31 PM
To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] V12 308 - Recipe for Smoked Testarossa?

 

Great point and an unanswered question I believe.

 

Have you scaled your Euro car by any chance?

 

Maybe one of you lurkers has seen the Goldsmith car in person?

On Aug 11, 2020, at 15:18, Matt Boyd <ferrari308driver [at] gmail.com> wrote:



I have a Euro and I don't know what the donor car in the article was, but we all know Euros weigh less (ornamental bumpers, less side impact/door reinforcement, no cats, no other emissions equipment, etc).

 

So maybe that's a starting point. Wheels for sure could be lighter. Did they put an A/C compressor and all those associated components back in? If not, there's some.

 

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 3:11 PM Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:

Where do you guys think the 110 or so lbs weight loss came from?

 

The Columbo V12 is huge and there is a lot of extra weight in fluids over the stock V8.

 

I am guessing there were plenty of items that were left off after the conversion like cats, mufflers, airbox, etc.

 

The larger wheels and tires also added bulk although Bob Bondurant tested the car at Sears Point with favorable chassis feedback.

 

Matt B, Peter R, or any of you 308 experts with insight on this?

 

 

 

On Aug 11, 2020, at 07:02, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

It was dumb then as it is now

It would be like putting a PT -6 turbine on a P-51 mustang!

 

 

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If you have no enemies, you have no character !

 

Clyde Romero    

 

 

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On Aug 10, 2020, at 11:41 PM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:



I have a copy of that 308 V12 conversion manual.

 

It was feasible back then as the donor V-12 engines were “reasonably” priced. Now though, it wouldn’t make sense. There was a Daytona V-12 engine for sale on Hemmings a few months ago – used as a display piece, so who knows why it was taken out of a car – and they were asking  $110K...

 

Although, it’s a great reference for the process and could be adapted using a modern 12 (like from a 456 or 550).

 

Peter

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

From: Lashdeep Singh
Sent: August 10, 2020 11:27 AM
To: Matt Boyd; Peter Rychel; Michel Savard; ferrari list
Subject: V12 308 - Recipe for Smoked Testarossa?

 

The hot rod BB reminded me of this car.

I hadn’t read the article in years...

400hp and they kept the weight down to 3140 lbs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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