Britt, yes, well sorta...
I like the Lightning Lap concept of having all of the cars in one location on the same day.
This takes out track conditions as a factor when comparing times.
What I don’t like about it is the fact that they have different drivers recording the best laps.
Fatigue is real and I know that one driver could never put down the best laps in each of those cars on the same day or even over a multitude of days.
So, completely understandable from a practical standpoint but not ideal for datapoints.
What sowed the doubt for me was watching onboard footage of the “official” laps.
Some were “less than optimal performances” but were printed as “best” times.
Hmm... On Feb 9, 2021, at 11:15, BRITT ROTHMAN <britt2asa [at] aol.com> wrote:
Aren’t you defining the whole purpose of Car and Drivers Lightening Lap? Same circuit, set rules. Lots of laps from various drivers.......
BR in Stockholm Sent from my iPad On 9 Feb 2021, at 05:12, Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:
I agree on the karting but what about those of us who like to drive the cars fast?
Everyone should enjoy their car the way they want but 30mph to Home Depot is not my idea of exotic car fun.
Back to the magazine testing...
It would be nice to see a testing method more suited to exotics.
At least, laptimes at a regular “control” circuit that would allow for proper comparisons.
Road and Track did a lot of shootouts between various performance cars back in the day. Usually, these were done at Willow Springs.
The data included times and speeds through various track segments which were nice to see.
Motor Trend thankfully includes a Randy Pobst power lap at Laguna Seca (and other tracks) which helps.
On Feb 8, 2021, at 21:28, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
Nonsense. They’re just cars after all. Every single one of my Ferraris has made the Home Depot run in our ownership.
Besides, if you really use these things routinely, you’re going to average what, 30 mph around town anyway?
And you know better, if you really are going to track something, a $30k Formula blah blah open wheel car will absolutely destroy a street car. I found a shifter kart more exciting than a 430 Challenge, but that’s just me.
Erik, what never made sense to me was how a magazine could test a minivan using the same criteria as a Ferrari.
There should be a different protocol at a track venue strictly for exotics or performance cars.
Fuel economy loops in a V12 Lambo with six carbs?
I never understood that...
Hmm, TSLA closed at $863.42 today. That’s a P/E of 1349.09.
Value?
What a quaint 20th century concept...
Larry, good point but an “average“ driver is not typically interested in an exotic car/manufacturer and vice versa.
Honestly, the cars that got reviewed badly in period are often the most exciting and valuable today.
I remember reading one of the big automotive magazines complaining about the location of auxiliary switches as an indictment of a particular Italian exotic’s overall design.
I thought to myself - why this guy fumbling around for the radio fader at 130mph??
Oh wait, he is prob in a Los Angeles traffic jam where the race inspired chassis means very little.
Hmm...
Might not one argue that in some respects a review by an "average driver" would be far more relevant to a prospective purchaser who was also an "average driver" than a review by a seasoned, professional race car driver?
. . . . How do you take a driving review of a vehicle from someone who has the training and skill of the average driver?
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