Re: GT4 just sold!
From: Hans E. Hansen (FListhanshansen.org)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 10:05:24 -0700 (PDT)
Actually, my old 308GT4 was quite rust free.  Can't say there wasn't
some lurking somewhere, but bottom of the doors, lower body sides, and
frame showed no signs at all.  No surface rust on suspension or pick
up points.  My mechanic even commented about the lack of rust.  For
example, after removing the inside door panel, the pinch weld at the
bottom looked just like it left the factory. (I gave it a shot of WD40
anyway, letting it soak into the joint.) The previous (and only other
owner) sweared that it was a zero rain car.  And I never drove it in
the rain either.  Didn't even use a hose to rinse it when I washed it
so no water could enter the doors or settle around the windows or
trim.

Had to have a minor nose respray after someone backed into it and
scuffed the paint.  Looking at the mounting holes for emblems, lights,
etc. ---- no rust at all.

That is one of the reasons why I sold it (there were other practical
considerations as well..).  I wanted an Italian car that wouldn't
disappear into a puddle of rust if driven routinely here in the PNW.
I don't hesitate to park my current car outside.

Hans.

On 10/29/21, cmlf1 [at] optonline.net <cmlf1 [at] optonline.net> wrote:
> Years ago I have seen my fair share of 308 GT/4's and there was none
> without rust unless they were seriously refinished. The underside and
> areas of the front frame to body point of these when built were barely
> primed/painted, never mind any rust prevention and as it was not
> uncommon to see spots left bare when manufactured.
> They have likely all had rust repair and resprays regardless of how well
> kept, but as Doug mentioned that was par for the course in that era with
> most vehicles.
> Example being that when my father first opened his shop in 1976, he did
> a nut and bolt restoration on a 1963 E-Type Jaguar as at 12 years old
> there was significant rust and original finishes were long gone.
>
>
>     ------ Original Message ------
>     From: dnt [at] dock.net
>     To: cmlf1 [at] optonline.net
> Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
>     Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 12:33 PM
>     Subject: Re: [Ferrari] GT4 just sold!
>
>           "rust repair"?  "Rust Repair"?    "RUST REPAIR"?
>   In the 1970's, and earlier, Ferrari consider the first frame coating
> to be
>   hydrous ferric oxides.
>   Or . . . . rust.
>   (sigh)  as witnessed by stacks of frames in the yard.
>   On the other hand - those may have been rejects and on the way to the
>   grinderupper.  ??
>   Doug
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com> On Behalf
> Of
>   Hans E. Hansen
>   Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 9:05 AM
>   To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
>   Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>   Subject: Re: [Ferrari] GT4 just sold!
>
>   In the commentary it was said that the respray was in association with
> rust
>   repair.
>
>   Hans.
>
>   On 10/29/21, cmlf1 [at] optonline.net <cmlf1 [at] optonline.net> wrote:
>   > Lash, I would think anyone familiar with any type of repair work
> would.
>   > To me, this indicates simple cost cutting on the work and would lead
>   > me to be very cautious about how the car was kept. At best case
>   > scenario it would lead me to believe that a quick inexpensive
> respray
>   > was done to freshen the appearance for sale. Not a car I would want.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >     ------ Original Message ------
>   >     From: lashdeep [at] yahoo.com
>   >     To: cmlf1 [at] optonline.net
>   > Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
>   >     Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 10:41 AM
>   >     Subject: Re: [Ferrari] GT4 just sold!
>   >
>   >
>   > Carl, good catch in the pics!
>   >
>   >
>   > I wonder how many bidders even noticed it?
>   >
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