Re: 3G cell Was:Yea right
From: Erik Nielsen (judge4regmail.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 20:07:01 -0800 (PST)
If BMW got their way, you’d own nothing and be perfectly happy.  I’ll pass. 

The Honda Accord is looking more appealing every day…

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 5:26 PM, Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org> wrote:
> 
> OK, went down the rabbit hole on this whole 3G car service:
> 
> Ferrari claims none of their models are susceptible.
> 
> GM likewise, except a few models will need a software and possibly a
> hardware upgrade supposedly at no cost.
> 
> Maserati likely will have issues.  Looks like they will do a hardware
> upgrade (free??) together with a mandatory $9.95/mo subscription.
> 
> Toyota says "tough shit", we aren't going to do anything.  Nissan may
> be in the same boat.
>   “Although these circumstances were created by factors beyond our
> control, we sincerely regret any inconvenience this may cause,” Toyota
> said in a statement on its website.
> 
> Honda has a software upgrade that must be done before Feb 22nd, as it
> is received via the 3G network.  After that, it's going to cost you!
> From Consumer Reports:
>  “The only way to update firmware on the TCU is through an OTA
> [over-the-air] update via AT&T’s mobile network,” says Chris Naughton,
> a spokesperson for Honda and Acura. “Since the TCUs in question are
> currently communicating via 3G, once that network stops operating,
> there is no further opportunity to communicate with the TCUs to
> perform the update.”
> If the TCU is not updated via 3G, it has to be replaced for $800-$900.
> 
> Audi is looking into either some sort of dongle that plugs into a USB
> port, or a "professionally installed" hardware upgrade.
> 
> Many of the other brands are giving, at least for now, a "no comment",
> including MB.
> 
> A couple of comments:
> 
> Both our 2017 Chevy Volt and GMC Acadia are already 4G, and they
> promise everything to work until at least 2026.
> 
> And a real juicy nugget:  Seems BMW is eventually going to a
> subscription model on even basic standard accessories.  For example,
> one auto news source says there will be a monthly fee to use the seat
> warmers!!!!
> 
> Articles:
> https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2021/12/report-the-end-of-3g-could-leave-your-vehicle-with-fewer-features/
> 
> https://www.thedrive.com/tech/43187/how-the-3g-shutdown-in-2022-could-screw-your-car
> 
> Hans.
> 
>> On 1/20/22, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>> On the bright side, you don’t need to worry about losing pairing with your
>> cell phone once they shut down 3G like the new Ferraris (and plenty of other
>> late model cars).
>> 
>> Can’t wait for those drivers to start complaining.
>> 
>> Popcorn?
>> 
>> 
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>>> Close to 70k on the original block, please, no matter who rebuilt it it’s
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>>> This was 1974 metal.
>>> 
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