Re: 3G cell Was:Yea right
From: BRITT ROTHMAN (britt2asaaol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 04:46:12 -0800 (PST)
To be fair that information on BMW is not new, it’s been talked about for more 
than a year. They claim they can build a single version of a car with all the 
options ( controlled I assume by a touchpad), where you can add and delete 
items as you wish. I see the logic ( although I hate the idea personally)… Move 
from Florida to New York with your BMW and wish you had bought seat heaters? 
Well presto, you can add them for a monthly fee. ( and assumably stop paying 
for them in the summer). I hate the idea but BMW can show a constant revenue 
source to the investors and even used cars will suddenly have all the options 
available if you buy one so it’s probably going to happen….BR in Stockholm

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> On 21 Jan 2022, at 05:07, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If BMW got their way, you’d own nothing and be perfectly happy.  I’ll pass. 
> 
> The Honda Accord is looking more appealing every day…
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 5:26 PM, Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, went down the rabbit hole on this whole 3G car service:
>> 
>> Ferrari claims none of their models are susceptible.
>> 
>> GM likewise, except a few models will need a software and possibly a
>> hardware upgrade supposedly at no cost.
>> 
>> Maserati likely will have issues.  Looks like they will do a hardware
>> upgrade (free??) together with a mandatory $9.95/mo subscription.
>> 
>> Toyota says "tough shit", we aren't going to do anything.  Nissan may
>> be in the same boat.
>>  “Although these circumstances were created by factors beyond our
>> control, we sincerely regret any inconvenience this may cause,” Toyota
>> said in a statement on its website.
>> 
>> Honda has a software upgrade that must be done before Feb 22nd, as it
>> is received via the 3G network.  After that, it's going to cost you!
>> From Consumer Reports:
>> “The only way to update firmware on the TCU is through an OTA
>> [over-the-air] update via AT&T’s mobile network,” says Chris Naughton,
>> a spokesperson for Honda and Acura. “Since the TCUs in question are
>> currently communicating via 3G, once that network stops operating,
>> there is no further opportunity to communicate with the TCUs to
>> perform the update.”
>> If the TCU is not updated via 3G, it has to be replaced for $800-$900.
>> 
>> Audi is looking into either some sort of dongle that plugs into a USB
>> port, or a "professionally installed" hardware upgrade.
>> 
>> Many of the other brands are giving, at least for now, a "no comment",
>> including MB.
>> 
>> A couple of comments:
>> 
>> Both our 2017 Chevy Volt and GMC Acadia are already 4G, and they
>> promise everything to work until at least 2026.
>> 
>> And a real juicy nugget:  Seems BMW is eventually going to a
>> subscription model on even basic standard accessories.  For example,
>> one auto news source says there will be a monthly fee to use the seat
>> warmers!!!!
>> 
>> Articles:
>> https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2021/12/report-the-end-of-3g-could-leave-your-vehicle-with-fewer-features/
>> 
>> https://www.thedrive.com/tech/43187/how-the-3g-shutdown-in-2022-could-screw-your-car
>> 
>> Hans.
>> 
>>>> On 1/20/22, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On the bright side, you don’t need to worry about losing pairing with your
>>> cell phone once they shut down 3G like the new Ferraris (and plenty of other
>>> late model cars).
>>> 
>>> Can’t wait for those drivers to start complaining.
>>> 
>>> Popcorn?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Clarence Romero Jr.
>>>> <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Close to 70k on the original block, please, no matter who rebuilt it it’s
>>>> worn out.
>>>> This was 1974 metal.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> https://ferraris-online.com/cars/1974-ferrari-246-gts-dino-07740/
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