Re: Talk about stupid
From: Rick Moseley (ramoselpacbell.net)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2022 20:03:10 -0800 (PST)
Anthony,
Likewise, your being intent on protecting the "unknown Ferrari owner" and Brian are backed by good intentions (I sincerely believe that).  But your judgement of others is also flawed.   Having walked in Clyde's shoes (née sat in his ejection seat) and knowing cLyDe, the person, he has no need for anyone's affirmation (well, maybe Denise's).   When you have confidence in yourself, you don't need averment from others.   Ask yourself, WHY does it bother you..? every time.  "Let it go man".  Reflection is for those with troubled minds.

We all have these cars for some level of enjoyment.   Anyone who is in it as an investment in anything but their own well being is probably in for a rude awakening.  But even then, it's not all gloom and doom.   Case in point:  Rob Garven, Jr.   I count Rob as a dear friend.  He may have put more money into 308GT4s than anybody, ever...  Same for his time...  and it's a pretty sure bet he won't get it back.  Pointing it out is not a dig on Rob, or his cars, it's just a statement based in numbers.   But Rob is the happiest, most dedicated, loyal Ferrari owner I know.  His enthusiasm is infectious... down right boundless.  Rob is Tifosi!!  A lot of people would (and do) pay good money to be as happy as Rob with his cars.  I'm one of them.   A lot of people spend a LOT more and are miserable when they have to sell them at a loss. Speaking that is just fact, no dispersions cast.   It's not that I'm better than them.  I don't know them.

Making serious coin on high end Ferraris is for those who really don't need the Ferrari money to begin with.  They are merely frivolous playthings. 

I believe in the Good Book too, but sometimes your inspiration and direction needs to come from tragedy...Greek Tragedy, that is.

“nothing forces us to know what we do not want to know except pain”  ~Aeschylus



On Sunday, February 6, 2022, 06:17:02 PM PST, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com> wrote:


How do YOU know HE didn't enjoy it?  Maybe he enjoyed it in a different way.  He ain't you.  Maybe he put it in the great room of his modern style house like a piece of art.  I wouldn't do that but it isn't my money so if that brought him happiness, more power to him.  

And he crushed inflation so he did pretty good.  So, maybe, he liked to see it every day as he ate his cheerios AND he made money.  

You know Clyde, with the best intentions, you might want to reflect on stuff like this.  Why does it bother you?  Or, why do you care?  Or, why do you feel the need to judge him?  From my perspective, you are constantly looking for affirmation.  Clyde was a great pilot.  Clyde is a great driver.  Clyde always made the right purchase at the right price.  Let it go man.  As the good book said, "Eat not the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil".  It applies to right and wrong and every other dualism.

On Sun, Feb 6, 2022, 7:31 PM Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:
He didn’t enjoy the car Buxton 
It has no miles on it, ow he realizes what he has 
That’s the difference 
I drove my 512 TR for 23 plus years and he blast he didn’t 
Get over it
He F%cked  up thinking it would be a million plus car
So he got outed 
You sell cars so your emotional tied to this industry 
Not me
I see it for what it is 
You want people like me to go into your place and spend huge sums of money 
On rolling stock that when I want to sell it back to you
You give me pennies on the dollar
When I took my 512 TR to the local dealer with 111k on it 
An they knew how I maintained it and had service records on it and ask for an appraisal 
They offered me $40k
And no I m not going to tell what I actually sold it for unless 
Brit tells not me 
Yea that’s you and your industry 
Your sell dreams covered in you know what
I like you but stop thinking your not out to extract the most from the guy
Coming thru the door and telling him the truth about the car market!
That’s why carvanna and the rest of the online car sales people are doing so well
And car dealers are a dying breed. 


     RF4-4EVR

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

If you have no enemies, you have no character !

Clyde Romero    


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On Feb 6, 2022, at 12:40 PM, Buxton Motorsports, Inc. Gmail <buxtonmotorsports [at] gmail.com> wrote:

But here is the problem. You could say that about anything you have, with the benefit of hindsight. What if your stock pick wasn’t Apple, but Enron?  Then there would be zero money left.  If you didn’t buy your house, a 512TR, any of the the other cars you owned since 2005, didn’t buy clothes, didn’t go out to eat etc then how much money might you have had IF you invested in the stock you would have invested in, but in 2022 didn’t invest in?  And what guarantee is there that he or you or whoever would have held it until 2022?  

Where is the line between investing every dime you have an living like a pauper your entire life, and buying cars you got to enjoy, a house that housed your family and built memories, dinners with friends and family etc?  At what point do you stop looking at numbers on a screen and take out profits to enjoy your life?

These comparisons are useless. Did you buy Apple in 2005 and hold it until today?  If not how are you smarter than they guy who owned and enjoyed a Ford GT for 17 years and made money on top of it?

Brian E. Buxton
Buxton Motorsports, Inc. 
Auto Acquisitions & Consulting
Evansville, IN


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On Feb 6, 2022, at 9:52 AM, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:


Ok so this idiot paid $166k after taxes etc my guess $175k in 2005
That’s what 17 years ago!
Add insurance and storage fees 
And the car is only bringing right now under $500k
If this guy would have put that same amount in the market it would be well over $1 million 
Can’t fix stupid…. 


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     RF4-4EVR

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Clyde Romero    


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If you have no enemies, you have no character !

Clyde Romero    


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