Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 209, Issue 13

[Michael Maulucci (michaelmaulucci]

308gtb 
I have to replace all the fuel line and the pump which was vane type the 15%
Caused havoc with my car I now only use 105 octane fuel @13.50 gallon cheaper 
than fixing everything and it runs much better !
Michael 

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> Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2023 08:19:14 -0500
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> To the media:
> Unless you have been in close combat with the enemy you need to shut the f@ck 
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> Those IDF infantry men were making spilt second decisions on their  fellow 
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> Its combat, close quarters combat no less. 
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> From: Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] [NFC] Four-wheeled brick
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> Britt wrote:
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> " ? ( imagine if the total chemical nature of gasoline changed every 8-10 
> years and your car and all its sensors had to work on this ? new? fuel or you 
> still had to be able to buy the old stuff??)
> I don?t know how it?s going to work out but batteries in cars isn?t going 
> away?.. and batteries do wear out?.."
> 
> Actually this is happening.
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> I'm seeing this in my Mondial.
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> I've got it laid up for the winter and am tackling service work and repairing 
> some issues. I have the gas tank out to do the timing belt, water pump, 
> coolant hoses, etc.
> 
> As of 2023, Canada has legislated - across the board. Coast to coast - all 
> gasoline MUST have ethanol (up to 10%). We were lucky here in BC that there 
> were still a couple of stations selling the high-test stuff as non-ethanol, 
> but not anymore. I pulled the fuel pumps out... you'd be shocked at the level 
> of corrosion on the components inside...
> 
> At least I have sourced out replacements that fit and flow correctly (that 
> are rated for use with ethanol) but first snag is the rubber isolator that 
> the pump fits into. Surprise, surprise, what's available from any of the 
> suppliers is NOT compatible with ethanol-content fuels. Mine are cracked and 
> hard. Thank you very much.
> 
> Not to mention ALL of the metric fuel hoses are, what I have to safely 
> assume, are the originals and I've got my work cut out for me this winter. 
> I'm planning to convert all connections to AN-6 so that I can use the highest 
> of spec E85 compatible hoses and fittings.
> 
> I don't want to stoke fear, but your 512 TR is from this same generation and 
> Europe & Canada have a hard-on for going "green". You have fair warning to 
> use your car accordingly.
> 
> There's plenty of talk that ethanol content will only increase with time. The 
> higher the percentage, the leaner the fuel becomes. 10% is okay for now, but 
> anything more and old cars like these will run too lean. Our cars use 
> narrow-band O2 sensors, so the ECU's can only trim fuel rates slightly either 
> way. I've been gathering up info on how to extract and flash the EPROM chips 
> in these Bosch Motronic ECU's, so that they will be able to run a correct 
> mixture (even with E10, the correct ratio is not 14.7:1 but more like 14.1:1).
> 
> When I get back to my 308 GT4, I'm in the process of future-proofing it with 
> full electronic engine management.
> 
> I don't think people realize how big of a change (and not in a good way) is 
> coming. We have the first taste of it now.
> 
> Peter
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> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] [NFC] Four-wheeled brick
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> I don?t think anyone will have a choice. Everything is going to batteries 
> like it or not. Somebody will need to start thinking about how to replace 
> battery packs that sre built into the chassis of cars. The cost of the 
> batteries is rapidly coming down but they still wear out due to heat, fast 
> charging, using more than 80% of the gross capacity ect?. Just like your 
> iPhone battery?, nobody is going to throw out a 296 after 10-15 years do 
> something will have to be done to be able to swap in a new battery pack. And 
> seeing that battery technology is changing so quickly, somebody will have to 
> engineer a backwards comparable battery ? ( imagine if the total chemical 
> nature of gasoline changed every 8-10 years and your car and all its sensors 
> had to work on this ? new? fuel or you still had to be able to buy the old 
> stuff?? )
> I don?t know how it?s going to work out but batteries in cars isn?t going 
> away?.. and batteries do wear out?..
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