Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Changing water pump

[LS (lashdeep]

What Dave is getting at is...

DO THE MAJOR SERVICE NOW!!!

:)

LS

--- Dave Handa <dave [at] davehanda.com> wrote:

> Wow, the list gets longer, but check the fuel hoses too.  In particular
> the
> fuel filler neck hose that goes from the fuel filler to the left side
> fuel
> tank. They rarely get checked until they are leaking, and the fuel will
> leak
> right onto the forward exhaust manifold...and since this is during
> filling,
> that exhaust manifold is HOT.
> 
> Just remember, even the "newest" 308 is now 22 years old!
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: misc [at] 308systems.com [mailto:misc [at] 308systems.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 2:25 PM
> To: dave [at] davehanda.com
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Changing water pump
> 
> As long as you are future planning a "major service", I highly recommend
> replacing ALL the hoses you can find.  I have an 85 308, and in '97
> while
> in the middle of a tuning session, from all the steam, I thought the
> engine exploded - turns out the factory hose blew a hole right near the
> intake next to the tunnel.  Right then and there, I decided to replace
> every old hose with new Gates green/gold stripe and have been a happy
> camper since.  Of course, as you get the car apart, you will find other
> small maintenance items to replace, but at the end of the odyssey you
> will
> have a sound car that YOU know was correctly maintained.
> 
> Mark Lueker
> 85 308
> 
> 
> > Great tips on the pump rebuild. I, myself, have a serious case of
> > perfectionist's disease. I traced an oil leak in an Audi to a cam seal
> and
> > ended up doing valve cover gaskets and replacing half of the crankcase
> > breather system simply because I was in there and the items were very
> > cheap.
> >
> > I can't stand wasting a labor intensive disassembly process.
> >
> > LS
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Jeff Greenfield <coyote [at] acme-ltd.com>
> > To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> > Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 2:25:40 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Changing water pump
> >
> >
> > There is one other issue regarding the 308/328 water pumps ...
> typically
> > water pumps will make noise and/or leak giving plenty of warning that
> they
> > are on the way out.
> >
> > This is not always the case with the water pumps on the 308/328 cars.
> > There
> > is one other failure mode ... the bearings seize with little to no
> > warning.
> > Considering how easy it is to get to the water pump, and it can easily
> be
> > rebuilt it might be worth doing if there is no history and/or the car
> has
> > been sitting for a long time. (the latter seems to increase the odds
> of
> > the
> > pump seizing)
> >
> > I believe that the parts to rebuild the pump are less than $200.00
> (US),
> > and
> > this can easily be done yourself with basic hand tools. Just be
> careful to
> > keep track of where the parts go, and their orientation. There is one
> > cupped
> > washer in there that is easy to lose track of which way it faces.
> >
> > Yes, these things can easily snow ball. I've got a car (not an F-car)
> in
> > the
> > shop right now that has a dent in the fender that the owner wanted
> fixed.
> > Well this lead to a discussion of painting the whole car, so I am
> > disassembling the car in preparation for the shop that is going to do
> the
> > paintwork. In the process of doing this, I found some pretty serious
> rust
> > issues hiding behind some plastic trim. Now the car is going to need
> some
> > serious re-construction whose cost will probably be close to the value
> of
> > the car by the time all is said and done, sigh.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LS [mailto:lashdeep [at] yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:52 PM
> > To: Jeff Greenfield
> > Cc: The FerrariList
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Changing water pump
> >
> > Any noise or weeping to indicate a problem? Can you move the shaft
> side to
> > side indicating any excessive tolerance? If not and you do plan on a
> major
> > soon, I'd say forget it.
> >
> > But, while you're in there...you might as well replace to avoid a
> > surprise.
> > If it were an older collectible car where date codes and originality
> are
> > paramount, I'd remove the original part, have it rebuilt and save it.
> > Since
> > we're talking about 328s, this may not be a concern for you.
> >
> > I had a leaking rear differential cover turn into a major suspension
> > upgrade
> > including coilovers as a result of the "while you are in there"
> mentality.
> >
> > It can get pricey! :)
> >
> > Regarding materials for car parts and/or music, the answer is always
> > METAL!
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > LS
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Rui Gigante <rui.gigante [at] gmail.com>
> > To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> > Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:34:18 PM
> > Subject: [Ferrari] Changing water pump
> >
> >
> > Hi listers,
> >
> > I'm considering changing the water pump on my 328, while I'm at it. I
> > can't
> > find in the records when it was last changed and it sure looks like
> it's
> > there for a long time!
> > The car does not overheat, far from it.
> >
> > Any advice as to:
> >
> > - change it and forget about it
> > - any issues about getting a new one ? (plastic vs metalic propeler,
> etc)
> > - leave it and change it next year, together with the belts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rui
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