Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Changing water pump

[misc (misc]

As long as you are future planning a "major service", I highly recommend
replacing ALL the hoses you can find.  I have an 85 308, and in '97 while
in the middle of a tuning session, from all the steam, I thought the
engine exploded - turns out the factory hose blew a hole right near the
intake next to the tunnel.  Right then and there, I decided to replace
every old hose with new Gates green/gold stripe and have been a happy
camper since.  Of course, as you get the car apart, you will find other
small maintenance items to replace, but at the end of the odyssey you will
have a sound car that YOU know was correctly maintained.

Mark Lueker
85 308


> Great tips on the pump rebuild. I, myself, have a serious case of
> perfectionist's disease. I traced an oil leak in an Audi to a cam seal and
> ended up doing valve cover gaskets and replacing half of the crankcase
> breather system simply because I was in there and the items were very
> cheap.
>
> I can't stand wasting a labor intensive disassembly process.
>
> LS
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jeff Greenfield <coyote [at] acme-ltd.com>
> To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 2:25:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Changing water pump
>
>
> There is one other issue regarding the 308/328 water pumps ... typically
> water pumps will make noise and/or leak giving plenty of warning that they
> are on the way out.
>
> This is not always the case with the water pumps on the 308/328 cars.
> There
> is one other failure mode ... the bearings seize with little to no
> warning.
> Considering how easy it is to get to the water pump, and it can easily be
> rebuilt it might be worth doing if there is no history and/or the car has
> been sitting for a long time. (the latter seems to increase the odds of
> the
> pump seizing)
>
> I believe that the parts to rebuild the pump are less than $200.00 (US),
> and
> this can easily be done yourself with basic hand tools. Just be careful to
> keep track of where the parts go, and their orientation. There is one
> cupped
> washer in there that is easy to lose track of which way it faces.
>
> Yes, these things can easily snow ball. I've got a car (not an F-car) in
> the
> shop right now that has a dent in the fender that the owner wanted fixed.
> Well this lead to a discussion of painting the whole car, so I am
> disassembling the car in preparation for the shop that is going to do the
> paintwork. In the process of doing this, I found some pretty serious rust
> issues hiding behind some plastic trim. Now the car is going to need some
> serious re-construction whose cost will probably be close to the value of
> the car by the time all is said and done, sigh.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LS [mailto:lashdeep [at] yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:52 PM
> To: Jeff Greenfield
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Changing water pump
>
> Any noise or weeping to indicate a problem? Can you move the shaft side to
> side indicating any excessive tolerance? If not and you do plan on a major
> soon, I'd say forget it.
>
> But, while you're in there...you might as well replace to avoid a
> surprise.
> If it were an older collectible car where date codes and originality are
> paramount, I'd remove the original part, have it rebuilt and save it.
> Since
> we're talking about 328s, this may not be a concern for you.
>
> I had a leaking rear differential cover turn into a major suspension
> upgrade
> including coilovers as a result of the "while you are in there" mentality.
>
> It can get pricey! :)
>
> Regarding materials for car parts and/or music, the answer is always
> METAL!
>
> Good luck,
>
> LS
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Rui Gigante <rui.gigante [at] gmail.com>
> To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:34:18 PM
> Subject: [Ferrari] Changing water pump
>
>
> Hi listers,
>
> I'm considering changing the water pump on my 328, while I'm at it. I
> can't
> find in the records when it was last changed and it sure looks like it's
> there for a long time!
> The car does not overheat, far from it.
>
> Any advice as to:
>
> - change it and forget about it
> - any issues about getting a new one ? (plastic vs metalic propeler, etc)
> - leave it and change it next year, together with the belts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rui
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