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--- Begin Message ---There is little doubt that exotic cars deteriorate rapidly if they are not properly maintained. At the risk of sounding a bit like a snob (which I'm not), it occurs to me that if low maintenance cost is the primary criterion for buying a car, said buyer should probably purchase a Toyota. Regards -----Original Message----- From: ferrari-request [at] ferrarilist.com [mailto:ferrari-request [at] ferrarilist.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:23 AM To: rtpetrick [at] comcast.net Subject: Ferrari Digest, Vol 6, Issue 42 Send Ferrari mailing list submissions to ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/listinfo/ferrari or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ferrari-request [at] ferrarilist.com You can reach the person managing the list at ferrari-owner [at] ferrarilist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Ferrari digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: 550 cost of ownership? (LS) 2. Re: 550 cost of ownership? (Tom Reynolds) 3. Re: 550 cost of ownership? (jimshadow [at] verizon.net) 4. Re: My Golf hits 600,000 miles! (Paul Bennett) 5. Re: My Golf hits 600,000 miles! (Ken Rentiers) 6. Re: 550 cost of ownership? (Jason Polzer) 7. Re: 550 cost of ownership? (Jim and Cheryl Brown) 8. Re: 550 cost of ownership? (jimshadow [at] verizon.net) 9. Re: 550 cost of ownership? (jimshadow [at] verizon.net) 10. Re: 550 cost of ownership? (Jason Polzer) 11. Re: 550 cost of ownership? (Jason Polzer) 12. Re: 550 cost of ownership? (Scott Carpenter) 13. Re: 550 cost of ownership? (LS) 14. Re: 550 cost of ownership? (Dave Handa) 15. Re: 550 cost of ownership? (jimshadow [at] verizon.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:33:00 -0800 (PST) From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? To: "Bruce T. Hill" <bruce.hill1 [at] cox.net> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <780962.71434.qm [at] web56715.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Curb rash is expensive!!! --- "Bruce T. Hill" <bruce.hill1 [at] cox.net> wrote: > Interesting article. > > http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/939 > > Some of the costs are simply ridiculous. $125 for a license plate frame? > WTF! > > Some people have more money than brains. > > Bruce > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/lashdeep%40yahoo.com > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:52:53 -0600 From: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? To: "Bruce T. Hill" <bruce.hill1 [at] cox.net> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <002301c73fbe$f22fbf20$6401a8c0 [at] tu.ok.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Under the category, "If you have to ask..." Tom Reynolds Tulsa, OK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce T. Hill" <bruce.hill1 [at] cox.net> To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:07 AM Subject: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? > Interesting article. > > http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/939 > > Some of the costs are simply ridiculous. $125 for a license plate frame? WTF! > > Some people have more money than brains. > > Bruce > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/kjtar%40cox.net > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/610 - Release Date: 12/30/06 > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:07:50 +0000 From: jimshadow [at] verizon.net Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>, "Jim" <JimShadow [at] verizon.net> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <1416100326-1169647567-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-362961263- [at] bxe017-cell02.bi sx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Is this consistent with the exorience of the 550 owners on this list....? Are there any? Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:52:53 To:JIM <jimshadow [at] verizon.net> Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? Under the category, "If you have to ask..." Tom Reynolds Tulsa, OK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce T. Hill" <bruce.hill1 [at] cox.net> To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:07 AM Subject: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? > Interesting article. > > http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/939 > > Some of the costs are simply ridiculous. $125 for a license plate frame? WTF! > > Some people have more money than brains. > > Bruce > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/kjtar%40cox.net > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/610 - Release Date: 12/30/06 > > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jimshadow%40verizon.net Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:20:15 -0800 From: Paul Bennett <pbennett [at] macnet.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] My Golf hits 600,000 miles! To: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20070124072015.015b9450 [at] macnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Congradulations on 600k of evasive driving in heavy traffic. Deduct the po's 160k miles and his 10 years. Still means: 440k miles - 40k miles per year - 40 mph ave - half a work year is 1000 hrs driving for 11 years. Yep, numbers check out Mechanical reliability is assumed but the true accomplishment is 11,000 hours of dodging stoplight racers. That's incredible! And it also means any fender-bender threatens instant totality on a 20 yo car. Yes, getting to 600k is a real feat. (If you sense that I'm paranoid about cars hitting me your right... I'm never the hitter but the hittee even been hit 4 times while stopped at a light) Let's hope this celebration doesn't jinx it. >Today was the big day. 600k and no sign of stopping! >http://www.pureluckdesign.com/vw/600k/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:25:15 -0600 From: Ken Rentiers <rentiers [at] mac.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] My Golf hits 600,000 miles! To: Paul Bennett <pbennett [at] macnet.com> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <0467A191-F20F-42E7-8911-627AFDF3F0CD [at] mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed you're right Paul. I read about a guy that put 1 million miles on his pickup, but he was doing a 200 mile run daily in the early morning hours in a quiet rural area, not running around metro SEA in the rain. Congratulations, Todd. ken On Jan 24, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Paul Bennett wrote: > Congradulations on 600k of evasive driving in heavy traffic. > Deduct the po's 160k miles and his 10 years. Still means: > 440k miles - 40k miles per year - 40 mph ave - > half a work year is 1000 hrs driving for 11 years. > Yep, numbers check out > > Mechanical reliability is assumed but the true accomplishment > is 11,000 hours of dodging stoplight racers. That's incredible! > And it also means any fender-bender threatens instant totality on a > 20 yo car. > Yes, getting to 600k is a real feat. > > (If you sense that I'm paranoid about cars hitting me your right... > I'm never the hitter but the hittee even been hit 4 times while > stopped at a light) > > Let's hope this celebration doesn't jinx it. > >> Today was the big day. 600k and no sign of stopping! >> http://www.pureluckdesign.com/vw/600k/ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rentiers% > 40mail.com > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:28:26 -0500 From: Jason Polzer <jason [at] internethosting.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? To: "Bruce T. Hill" <bruce.hill1 [at] cox.net> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <45B7892A.2080100 [at] internethosting.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed "I spend more than that on crap on eBay every year." Hehe Jason Bruce T. Hill wrote: > Interesting article. > > http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/939 > > Some of the costs are simply ridiculous. $125 for a license plate frame? WTF! > > Some people have more money than brains. > > Bruce > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jason%40internethosting ..com > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:43:17 -0800 (PST) From: Jim and Cheryl Brown <barchetta [at] verizon.net> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? To: jimshadow [at] verizon.net Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <20070124164317.27812.qmail [at] web84113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I've noticed that most of the articles in Sport Car market seem to lean towards poo pooing Ferrari ownership in general. Why not publish an article that is more objective about ownership costs? Guess that doesn't sell magazines? Almost everything in that article was voluntary repair. The only real issues were mostly covered by warranty. The ones that weren't were not anymore money than taking a mercedes or some other high end car in for service. I'd like to see an article from someone that has one currently or just got rid of one. jimshadow [at] verizon.net wrote: Is this consistent with the exorience of the 550 owners on this list....? Are there any? Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Tom Reynolds" Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:52:53 To:JIM Cc:The FerrariList Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? Under the category, "If you have to ask..." Tom Reynolds Tulsa, OK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce T. Hill" To: "Tom Reynolds" Cc: "The FerrariList" Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:07 AM Subject: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? > Interesting article. > > http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/939 > > Some of the costs are simply ridiculous. $125 for a license plate frame? WTF! > > Some people have more money than brains. > > Bruce > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/kjtar%40cox.net > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/610 - Release Date: 12/30/06 > > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jimshadow%40verizon.net Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/barchetta%40verizon.net Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:46:06 +0000 From: jimshadow [at] verizon.net Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? To: "Jason Polzer" <jason [at] internethosting.com>, "Jim" <JimShadow [at] verizon.net>, "cmidgett [at] inkonit.com" <cmidgett [at] inkonit.com> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <363119425-1169657062-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-2116382793- [at] bxe026-cell02.bi sx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Think of what you could buy just for the cost of the 1st three years of ownership!!!!! The guy who made that comment apparently has FU money... Jim Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Jason Polzer <jason [at] internethosting.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:28:26 To:JIM <jimshadow [at] verizon.net> Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? "I spend more than that on crap on eBay every year." Hehe Jason Bruce T. Hill wrote: > Interesting article. > > http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/939 > > Some of the costs are simply ridiculous. $125 for a license plate frame? WTF! > > Some people have more money than brains. > > Bruce > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jason%40internethosting ..com > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jimshadow%40verizon.net Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:48:32 +0000 From: jimshadow [at] verizon.net Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? To: "Jim and Cheryl Brown" <barchetta [at] verizon.net>, "Jim" <JimShadow [at] verizon.net> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <1522652353-1169657209-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-1434113332- [at] bxe029-cell02.b isx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" You know, that is a good point, but voluntary or not, a $225K car should not have the type of suspension problems that make you think, "I guess I should replace that..." Jim Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Jim and Cheryl Brown <barchetta [at] verizon.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:43:17 To:jimshadow [at] verizon.net Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? I've noticed that most of the articles in Sport Car market seem to lean towards poo pooing Ferrari ownership in general. Why not publish an article that is more objective about ownership costs? Guess that doesn't sell magazines? Almost everything in that article was voluntary repair. The only real issues were mostly covered by warranty. The ones that weren't were not anymore money than taking a mercedes or some other high end car in for service. I'd like to see an article from someone that has one currently or just got rid of one. jimshadow [at] verizon.net wrote: Is this consistent with the exorience of the 550 owners on this list....? Are there any? Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Tom Reynolds" Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:52:53 To:JIM Cc:The FerrariList Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? Under the category, "If you have to ask..." Tom Reynolds Tulsa, OK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce T. Hill" To: "Tom Reynolds" Cc: "The FerrariList" Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:07 AM Subject: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? > Interesting article. > > http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/939 > > Some of the costs are simply ridiculous. $125 for a license plate frame? WTF! > > Some people have more money than brains. > > Bruce > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/kjtar%40cox.net > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/610 - Release Date: 12/30/06 > > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jimshadow%40verizon.net Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/barchetta%40verizon.net Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:46:54 -0500 From: Jason Polzer <jason [at] internethosting.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? To: Jim and Cheryl Brown <barchetta [at] verizon.net> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <45B78D7E.2020802 [at] internethosting.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I agree, most of the items seemed optional to me, and the serious ones were covered under warranty. Jim and Cheryl Brown wrote: I've noticed that most of the articles in Sport Car market seem to lean towards poo pooing Ferrari ownership in general. Why not publish an article that is mo re objective about ownership costs? Guess that doesn't sell magazines? Almost e verything in that article was voluntary repair. The only real issues were mostl y covered by warranty. The ones that weren't were not anymore money than taking a mercedes or some other high end car in for service. I'd like to see an artic le from someone that has one currently or just got rid of one. [1]jimshadow [at] verizon.net wrote: Is this consistent with the exorience of the 5 50 owners on this list....? Are there any? Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Tom Reynolds" Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:52:53 To:JIM Cc:The FerrariList Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? Under the category, "If you have to ask..." Tom Reynolds Tulsa, OK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce T. Hill" To: "Tom Reynolds" Cc: "The FerrariList" Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:07 AM Subject: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? Interesting article. [2]http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/939 Some of the costs are simply ridiculous. $125 for a license plate frame? WTF! Some people have more money than brains. Bruce _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: [3]http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/kjtar%40cox.net Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/610 - Release Date: 12/30/06 _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: [4]http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jimshadow%40verizon. net Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: [5]http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/barchetta%40verizon. net Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: [6]http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jason%40internethost ing ...com Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper References 1. mailto:jimshadow [at] verizon.net 2. http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/939 3. http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/kjtar%40cox.net 4. http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jimshadow%40verizon.net 5. http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/barchetta%40verizon.net 6. http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jason%40internethosting ..com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:51:22 -0500 From: Jason Polzer <jason [at] internethosting.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? To: jimshadow [at] verizon.net Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <45B78E8A.1040505 [at] internethosting.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Well he kept replacing rear tires too, so the car was not babied. And with the road rash on three rims you KNOW that was caused going sideways full throttle :) I like this guy.... [1]jimshadow [at] verizon.net wrote: You know, that is a good point, but voluntary or not, a $225K car should not ha ve the type of suspension problems that make you think, "I guess I should repla ce that..." Jim Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Jim and Cheryl Brown [2]<barchetta [at] verizon.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:43:17 [3]To:jimshadow [at] verizon.net Cc:The FerrariList [4]<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? I've noticed that most of the articles in Sport Car market seem to lean towards poo pooing Ferrari ownership in general. Why not publish an article that is mo re objective about ownership costs? Guess that doesn't sell magazines? Almost e verything in that article was voluntary repair. The only real issues were mostl y covered by warranty. The ones that weren't were not anymore money than taking a mercedes or some other high end car in for service. I'd like to see an artic le from someone that has one currently or just got rid of one. [5]jimshadow [at] verizon.net wrote: Is this consistent with the exorience of the 55 0 owners on this list....? Are there any? Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Tom Reynolds" Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:52:53 To:JIM Cc:The FerrariList Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? Under the category, "If you have to ask..." Tom Reynolds Tulsa, OK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce T. Hill" To: "Tom Reynolds" Cc: "The FerrariList" Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:07 AM Subject: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? Interesting article. [6]http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/939 Some of the costs are simply ridiculous. $125 for a license plate frame? WTF! Some people have more money than brains. Bruce _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: [7]http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/kjtar%40cox.net Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/610 - Release Date: 12/30/06 _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: [8]http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jimshadow%40verizon. net Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: [9]http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/barchetta%40verizon. net Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: [10]http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jason%40internethos tin g.com Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper References 1. mailto:jimshadow [at] verizon.net 2. mailto:barchetta [at] verizon.net 3. mailto:To:jimshadow [at] verizon.net 4. mailto:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com 5. mailto:jimshadow [at] verizon.net 6. http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/939 7. http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/kjtar%40cox.net 8. http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jimshadow%40verizon.net 9. http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/barchetta%40verizon.net 10. http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jason%40internethosting ..com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:53:23 -0500 From: "Scott Carpenter" <scscottc [at] gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? To: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <604a4ca50701240853q74e7e2d0n59987bc1b5951687 [at] mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed If they had taken depreciation into consideration they could have compared the cost per mile to the space shuttle.. :-) I completely agree most of the "costs" were voluntary ones... the more interesting thing was seeing a $225,000 car drop to $90,000 in 6 years... I guess good things do come to those who wait... Scott 1985 308 1971 Pantera 2003 996 ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:12:52 -0800 (PST) From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? To: ferrari list <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <396353.33446.qm [at] web56703.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Neither should a $50k car...B5 Audis need front control arms replaced regularly as did the legendary E30 BMWs. When did suspension pieces become routine maintenance? Can't these Euro manufacturers figure out a way to make a bushing/control arm design that lasts? For some reason, we put up with it...public perception is very powerful. It makes us scrutinize a Lotus Esprit or a Dodge, yet overlook the same ridiculous failures on a Honda or Benz. Was this type of mind control what Koresh had in mind? He should've consulted an automotive marketing dept. LS --- jimshadow [at] verizon.net wrote: > You know, that is a good point, but voluntary or not, a $225K car should > not have the type of suspension problems that make you think, "I guess I > should replace that..." > > Jim > Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim and Cheryl Brown <barchetta [at] verizon.net> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:43:17 > To:jimshadow [at] verizon.net > Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? > > I've noticed that most of the articles in Sport Car market seem to lean > towards poo pooing Ferrari ownership in general. Why not publish an > article that is more objective about ownership costs? Guess that doesn't > sell magazines? Almost everything in that article was voluntary repair. > The only real issues were mostly covered by warranty. The ones that > weren't were not anymore money than taking a mercedes or some other high > end car in for service. I'd like to see an article from someone that has > one currently or just got rid of one. > > jimshadow [at] verizon.net wrote: Is this consistent with the exorience of > the 550 owners on this list....? > Are there any? > Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Tom Reynolds" > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:52:53 > To:JIM > Cc:The FerrariList > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? > > Under the category, "If you have to ask..." > Tom Reynolds > Tulsa, OK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce T. Hill" > To: "Tom Reynolds" > Cc: "The FerrariList" > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:07 AM > Subject: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? > > > > Interesting article. > > > > http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/939 > > > > Some of the costs are simply ridiculous. $125 for a license plate > frame? > WTF! > > > > Some people have more money than brains. > > > > Bruce > > _________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/kjtar%40cox.net > > > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > > > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/610 - Release Date: > 12/30/06 > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jimshadow%40verizon.net > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/barchetta%40verizon.net > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/lashdeep%40yahoo.com > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:19:21 -0800 From: "Dave Handa" <dave [at] davehanda.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? To: "'LS'" <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <001901c73fdb$c9db03f0$b500a8c0 [at] FerrariLaptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" E39 BMW's (525,528,530,540 1997-2003) are also notorious for failure of the "thrust arm bushings" on the front control arms. Failure is anywhere from 30,000 to 50,000 miles. Radiator failure is common (they are plastic and aluminum) between 40,000 and 60,000. D -----Original Message----- From: LS [mailto:lashdeep [at] yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:13 AM To: dave [at] davehanda.com Cc: The FerrariList Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? Neither should a $50k car...B5 Audis need front control arms replaced regularly as did the legendary E30 BMWs. When did suspension pieces become routine maintenance? Can't these Euro manufacturers figure out a way to make a bushing/control arm design that lasts? For some reason, we put up with it...public perception is very powerful. It makes us scrutinize a Lotus Esprit or a Dodge, yet overlook the same ridiculous failures on a Honda or Benz. Was this type of mind control what Koresh had in mind? He should've consulted an automotive marketing dept. LS --- jimshadow [at] verizon.net wrote: > You know, that is a good point, but voluntary or not, a $225K car should > not have the type of suspension problems that make you think, "I guess I > should replace that..." > > Jim > Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim and Cheryl Brown <barchetta [at] verizon.net> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:43:17 > To:jimshadow [at] verizon.net > Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? > > I've noticed that most of the articles in Sport Car market seem to lean > towards poo pooing Ferrari ownership in general. Why not publish an > article that is more objective about ownership costs? Guess that doesn't > sell magazines? Almost everything in that article was voluntary repair. > The only real issues were mostly covered by warranty. The ones that > weren't were not anymore money than taking a mercedes or some other high > end car in for service. I'd like to see an article from someone that has > one currently or just got rid of one. > > jimshadow [at] verizon.net wrote: Is this consistent with the exorience of > the 550 owners on this list....? > Are there any? > Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Tom Reynolds" > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:52:53 > To:JIM > Cc:The FerrariList > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? > > Under the category, "If you have to ask..." > Tom Reynolds > Tulsa, OK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce T. Hill" > To: "Tom Reynolds" > Cc: "The FerrariList" > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:07 AM > Subject: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? > > > > Interesting article. > > > > http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/939 > > > > Some of the costs are simply ridiculous. $125 for a license plate > frame? > WTF! > > > > Some people have more money than brains. > > > > Bruce > > _________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/kjtar%40cox.net > > > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > > > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/610 - Release Date: > 12/30/06 > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jimshadow%40verizon.net > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/barchetta%40verizon.net > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/lashdeep%40yahoo.com > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/dave%40davehanda.com Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:25:04 +0000 From: jimshadow [at] verizon.net Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? To: "L. Singh (TPFR)" <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>, "Jim" <JimShadow [at] verizon.net> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <1987993219-1169659401-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-1580014203- [at] bxe008-cell02.b isx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" I agree Lash, but the Audi's and Bimmers get replaced closer to 100K miles, not 36K. I beat the sh*t out of me E36M3 for 60K and these parts were a non issue... If I'm laying out 10X the price for a Ferrari, I'd like to have some fun in it for a while before the money sinkhole opens up. Here's a question for you guys, does a $225K car come with a higher expectation in the quality of the parts. I think so! It will be interesting to are this same article in a few years but on the 599... Jim Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device -----Original Message----- From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:12:52 To:JIM <jimshadow [at] verizon.net> Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? Neither should a $50k car...B5 Audis need front control arms replaced regularly as did the legendary E30 BMWs. When did suspension pieces become routine maintenance? Can't these Euro manufacturers figure out a way to make a bushing/control arm design that lasts? For some reason, we put up with it...public perception is very powerful. It makes us scrutinize a Lotus Esprit or a Dodge, yet overlook the same ridiculous failures on a Honda or Benz. Was this type of mind control what Koresh had in mind? He should've consulted an automotive marketing dept. LS --- jimshadow [at] verizon.net wrote: > You know, that is a good point, but voluntary or not, a $225K car should > not have the type of suspension problems that make you think, "I guess I > should replace that..." > > Jim > Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim and Cheryl Brown <barchetta [at] verizon.net> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:43:17 > To:jimshadow [at] verizon.net > Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? > > I've noticed that most of the articles in Sport Car market seem to lean > towards poo pooing Ferrari ownership in general. Why not publish an > article that is more objective about ownership costs? Guess that doesn't > sell magazines? Almost everything in that article was voluntary repair. > The only real issues were mostly covered by warranty. The ones that > weren't were not anymore money than taking a mercedes or some other high > end car in for service. I'd like to see an article from someone that has > one currently or just got rid of one. > > jimshadow [at] verizon.net wrote: Is this consistent with the exorience of > the 550 owners on this list....? > Are there any? > Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Tom Reynolds" > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:52:53 > To:JIM > Cc:The FerrariList > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? > > Under the category, "If you have to ask..." > Tom Reynolds > Tulsa, OK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce T. Hill" > To: "Tom Reynolds" > Cc: "The FerrariList" > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:07 AM > Subject: [Ferrari] 550 cost of ownership? > > > > Interesting article. > > > > http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/939 > > > > Some of the costs are simply ridiculous. $125 for a license plate > frame? > WTF! > > > > Some people have more money than brains. > > > > Bruce > >_________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/kjtar%40cox.net > > > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > > > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/610 - Release Date: > 12/30/06 > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/jimshadow%40verizon.net > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper >_________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/barchetta%40verizon.net > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > > >_________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/lashdeep%40yahoo.com > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Don't pick lemons. 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550 cost of ownership Dick Petrick, January 24 2007
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