Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Why a 308GT4? (Was: First 1000 miles done in the 308 :) )

[Peter Pless (ferrarilist]

Never an LM!!

Well..i wanted a carby car because the club has fragmented a little...they
now have carby events and modern events....and all the old codgers who I
hung out with in the club drive the oldies...i didn't want a twelve...and
since it's going to be, more or less, my everyday car, I like its
practicality. Let me add, however, that my previous every day car only did
2-3000km a year!

Plus...the one I found is a ripper! 

-----Original Message-----
From: Grahame Reinthal [mailto:grahame [at] reinthal.com.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2007 10:55 PM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] Why a 308GT4? (Was: First 1000 miles done in the 308 :) )

Hi Peter,

I'm curious. Since you have had or still do have 355s, Boxers and F40s,
F40LMs and so on, why the 308gt4? Not that I'm knocking them - I have had
one myself for 14 years or so anyway and it is a fine and noble car - but
I'm just curious. Are you going to do it up for Targa Tasmania perhaps, a
bit like Jim Reark's? Whatever.  Just curious.

As for the XWXs, I have the original 6.5 x 14 Cromodora rims. I currently
run Falkens for just poodling about, and they are ok but I used to run
Dunlop Formula Rs and they were terrific - very sticky - don't think they
make them in that size any more. I am soon going to get a set of Compomotive
16 x 7 fronts and 16 x 8 rears and put Dunlop D20G front, 205/55R16 (632mm
outer diameter), and Dunlop D01J rear, 225/50R16 (632mm outer diameter).
The key here is the matched rolling diameters. I am told that, given the
308/ 328 suspension geometry, going lower profile loses something in the
translation. That is, yes, going 16" definitely improves the 308gt4, but
going further is not only a waste of time but actually does not suit the car
so well.

Very sound idea to replace the sodium-filled valves. My disaster happened at
less than 40,000 km (not miles!) and running at about 3,500rpm at the time.
Now I have done the very un-concourse thing and have the 328 motor in my
gt4. Got rid of the 328's mechanical fuel injection and put a sequential
system in using 348 injectors and made a lot of other changes. It's an ever
evolving project, but key to me is that it looks dead standard until you
lift the engine lid. All good fun!

Cheers,
Grahame

  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Pless [mailto:ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2007 6:59 AM
> To: Grahame
> Cc: 'The FerrariList'
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] First 1000 miles done in the 308 :)
> 
> Grahame,
> 
> All the bits came with the car. The spare muffler is new. Apparently 
> it has stainless headers, but I'm not sure about the muffler that's on 
> there, apart from it only being a few years old. Yep..spare wheels AND 
> Modena cam belt pulley wheels..which is, apparently, a good thing.
> 
> I'm going to be running XWXs on it...i just have to decide which set 
> of wheels. I have no desire to go bigger with the wheels, though. I 
> don't see the point.
> 
> PP
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grahame Reinthal [mailto:grahame [at] reinthal.com.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2007 12:27 AM
> To: Peter Pless
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] First 1000 miles done in the 308 :)
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Good to see all the photos. I'm jealous - you have 2 sets of wheels! I 
> am about to buy either 16" or 17" rims. BTW, did all those bits come 
> extra with the car or have you been quick off the mark in pulling it 
> to bits?  Good news that you are changing the valves, having 
> personally gone down the exhaust valve through piston tragic saga. 
> Also, is your muffler stainless?
> I
> have a stainless Mille Miglia muffler surplus to requirements here in 
> Sydney if you or anyone's interested.
> 
> Cheers,
> Grahame
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Pless [mailto:ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au]
> > Sent: Monday, 14 May 2007 11:39 PM
> > To: Grahame
> > Cc: The FerrariList
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] First 1000 miles done in the 308 :)
> >
> > http://www.pless.com.au/cars/gt4/
> >
> > It's got the sodium valves. They're being changed before I do more 
> > driving
> >
> > I think the pics tell it all.
> >
> > 63000km...that's about 30000m 3 owners @10years.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jimshadow [at] verizon.net [mailto:jimshadow [at] verizon.net]
> > Sent: Monday, 14 May 2007 11:39 PM
> > To: Peter Pless; The FerrariList
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] First 1000 miles done in the 308 :)
> >
> > WOW!  Congrats!!!!
> >
> > Before you do anythning, replace your fuel filler  hose and it your 
> > hands on
> > all of your fuel lines!   If you cannot be 100% sure that they were
> > recently
> > replaced, DO THEM NOW!!!!!!
> > I had submitted a post on this with pics last week, but the server 
> > bumped it.  Ill roost it soon with pics posted somewhere....
> > All the fuel hoses can be sourced at NAPA.   I have a link to sizes if
> you
> > need it.
> >
> > Send pics and DO TELL about your GT4!!!!!
> >
> > Jim
> > Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless device
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Peter Pless" <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au>
> > Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:22:15
> > To:JIM <jimshadow [at] verizon.net>
> > Cc:'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] First 1000 miles done in the 308 :)
> >
> > I just picked up my 308 GT4 today. If you have any other little tips 
> > like that one, please do share!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Doug and Terri Anderson [mailto:dnt [at] dock.net]
> > Sent: Monday, 14 May 2007 11:16 PM
> > To: Peter Pless
> > Cc: The FerrariList
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] First 1000 miles done in the 308 :)
> >
> > Gavin notes "I gave the car a good clean and in the process found 
> > "Made in Taiwan" on the mirrors!!!!  ?|"
> >
> > Hoo Haaa Gavin - aint it a ball?  Getting used to the clink clink 
> > when shifting?  Man, I love that sound.
> >
> > So the mirrors had Taiwan on them eh?  Wait till you take a close 
> > look at your tool kit - India.
> >
> > In 1999 when we were at the factory I asked one of the people there 
> > why they had put cheap tools made in India with chrome peeling from 
> > the screw driver in the earlier cars - his reply was - well, back 
> > then we were a small company and couldn't concern ourselves with 
> > luxury as we do now - besides, you aren't supposed to do any work on 
> > the car yourself - take it to an authorized dealer.  heh heh
> >
> > DOUG
> > PS - you may want to check out the accelerator pedal box for
> lubrication.
> > Ours was so stiff it took two feet - turns out the original grease 
> > had gone pink and was hard as a brick.  I bet the same problem 
> > happens to the window winders - But NEVER take one of those apart 
> > unless you absolutely need to
> > -
> > that picture hanging wire goes everywhere.  Just a few shots of 
> > motorcycle chain lube does the trick
> >
> >
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