Ferrari Mailing List: Re: 456 gt search

[clyde romero (clyderomero]

Listen the car was designed with the auto in mind the 6 sp was an after
thought.

         
 
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Fellippe Galletta [mailto:fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 3:28 PM
To: clyde
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 456 gt search

On 7/16/07, John Allison <johnallison [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dennis is right, it's not the same.  I am trying so hard not to scream
> out against torque converter automatics.  Perhaps it is just me
> dreaming of shifting , but the lack of connectedness between the
> engine, tranmission, and road makes me die a little more everytime I
> get behind the wheel of my current car.  I just could never see myself
> pushing something like that upon anyone.


I never drove a 456, so I don't know the true nature of the car, but it's
possible that an automatic might be okay there, whereas its unacceptable to
me in a 911 turbo regardless of performance advantages.

I believe I read somewhere that the auto in the 456 is sorta like a shift
kit in that there's a selector for each of the 4 gears (D, 3,2,1). If it
isn't, it seems like it could be a straightforward modification.

Torque converter automatics are cool in cars like Bentley Continental GTs
and McLaren SLRs....it works very well in the CGT, and I even liked shifting
with paddles (which I never care to do with tiptronic type autos).  To hate
on the SLR for being an auto is to forget it weighs a ton and is a Benz! ;)

If an auto doesn't work in the Ferrari it's because the nature of the loud
V12 would be disrupted with a regular auto. I'd go manual unless the auto
came in at a very good price.

<But as Clyde says, "It's your money."  I just want to believe that
<there are still people who long for that feeling of freedom and control.
<
<Best,
<John

There are John....although I tend to agree with your ideology for the most
part, I've learned to refrain from making absolute blanket statements with
cars. You never really know until you try something...although I'd like to
go out on a limb and call a 997 turbo cab automatic GAY...;)

I feel once a car reaches a certain sporty nature (and especially if it is
smaller, and relies on a high revving motor), a torque converter auto is
just a no-no. Torque converter autos are as good or better than stickshifts
for straight line fun, but will never compare to a true clutch based manual.
An SLR 722 owner with racing experience recently commented how much he liked
the car on the track but wishes it could be manual based...

I'm close to making a blanket statement that paddle shifted clutch based
semiautos are cars I have no interest in owning....for 6-7 tenths driving on
the street, I'm confident to say that they are boring compared to having the
extra pedal and shifter...back to back driving of a Vanquish, Gallardo and
F430 equipped as such confirmed this to me.

However, aggressive cornering on the street and track may be a different
story....left foot braking skills can add to this.

So I will not rule it out...just yet. Dreams of converting a Challenge
Stradale to stick may have to be put on hold...

:)

FG
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