Re: 456 gt search
From: Tom Reynolds (kjtarcox.net)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:06:50 -0700 (PDT)
I remember years ago when I heard that RR got a GM turbohydramatic
transmission, put it under the glass, discovered some micrsopic little
ridges/bumps on one of the surfaces, put it down to "shoddy engineering" and
removed them.  Trans then refused to work.
Hmmm.
Tom Reynolds
Tulsa, OK

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "LarryT" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 456 gt search


> Dennis wrote:<<I suspect that like any other automatic, especially one
> built by GM, you can take it to any reputable shop >>
>
> Correct Dennis.  If it were built in the 1st place surely it can be
rebuilt.
> Might not be cheap, but the parts existed at one time to build it and the
> machining done can always be done again.  I'm at a loss to understand how
a
> comment like "cannot be rebuilt" can be made.  If the parts were
completely
> used up it might be cheaper to buy another transmission but it can be
> rebuilt even if the replacement parts must be fabricated.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Liu" <bigheaddennis [at] gmail.com>
> To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 456 gt search
>
>
> > Robert (sequoiasail [at] aol.com) wrote:
> >
> >>Good Morning all from Sonoma Valley.CA?I am in the market for a 6 speed
> >>456
> > gt.I am having some trouble finding one.They all seem to be
automatics.The
> > dealears say the auto is about the same? as 6 speed please help thanks
> > Robert
> >
> > ===================
> >
> > The auto is NOT the same.  Part of me wants to reply, "if you have to
ask
> > whether an automatic is OK, then you really don't care if it's a manual
or
> > not."  But that's a little onboxious.  :-)  Truly, I think most of us
are
> > so
> > in love with sports cars and enthusiastic driving that we must have a
> > manual
> > transmission, at least on sports cars (or what purports to be a sports
> > car).
> > Personally, I'd only ever own sports cars with a manual, but I'm happy
> > enough driving around in a big sedan or SUV with an automatic (like
> > firearms, you need the right tool for the job).
> >
> > Specifically on the 456, the automatic has a VERY big downside.  Yes,
it's
> > a
> > modified GM transmission, but Ferrari (and its dealers) claim that the
> > unit
> > CANNOT be rebuilt, and that you need to order one from them.  $20k+.
> > Insanity.  Now, I suspect that like any other automatic, especially one
> > built by GM, you can take it to any reputable shop and they can work
magic
> > with it.
> >
> > Otherwise, I'm led to believe that the car is fairly robust.  You need
the
> > window update ($5k+), but most should have had that done by now.  I
think
> > there has been a 456 buyer's guide, either in Forza or in Sports Car
> > Market,
> > worth checking out.
> >
> > Also, there is a wealth of knowledge over on the 456/550/575 subtopic on
> > FerrariChat.com.  There are also usually a few 456s for sale on there
(or
> > its ad section, FerrariAds.com), or if you're seriously looking, you can
> > post a "wanted" ad and you'll find out about a bunch.
> >
> > Good luck, and keep us posted!
> >
> > Vty,
> >
> > --Dennis
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