Re: 456 gt search
From: Tom Reynolds (kjtarcox.net)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:03:21 -0700 (PDT)
I missed my '78 308gt4 so much that I got a '96 Camaro Z28 SS.  Manual, of
course.  Make every shift a challenge, and possibly, a reward.  Hell,
anybody can drive an automatic.
Tom Reynolds
Tulsa, OK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Allison" <johnallison [at] gmail.com>
To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 456 gt search


> Dennis is right, it's not the same.  I am trying so hard not to scream
> out against torque converter automatics.  Perhaps it is just me
> dreaming of shifting , but the lack of connectedness between the
> engine, tranmission, and road makes me die a little more everytime I
> get behind the wheel of my current car.  I just could never see myself
> pushing something like that upon anyone.
>
> But as Clyde says, "It's your money."  I just want to believe that
> there are still people who long for that feeling of freedom and control.
>
> Best,
> John
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 16, 2007, at 1:35 PM, Dennis Liu <bigheaddennis [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Robert (sequoiasail [at] aol.com) wrote:
> >
> >> Good Morning all from Sonoma Valley.CA?I am in the market for a 6
> >> speed 456
> > gt.I am having some trouble finding one.They all seem to be
> > automatics.The
> > dealears say the auto is about the same? as 6 speed please help thanks
> > Robert
> >
> > ===================
> >
> > The auto is NOT the same.  Part of me wants to reply, "if you have
> > to ask
> > whether an automatic is OK, then you really don't care if it's a
> > manual or
> > not."  But that's a little onboxious.  :-)  Truly, I think most of
> > us are so
> > in love with sports cars and enthusiastic driving that we must have
> > a manual
> > transmission, at least on sports cars (or what purports to be a
> > sports car).
> > Personally, I'd only ever own sports cars with a manual, but I'm happy
> > enough driving around in a big sedan or SUV with an automatic (like
> > firearms, you need the right tool for the job).
> >
> > Specifically on the 456, the automatic has a VERY big downside.
> > Yes, it's a
> > modified GM transmission, but Ferrari (and its dealers) claim that
> > the unit
> > CANNOT be rebuilt, and that you need to order one from them.  $20k+.
> > Insanity.  Now, I suspect that like any other automatic, especially
> > one
> > built by GM, you can take it to any reputable shop and they can work
> > magic
> > with it.
> >
> > Otherwise, I'm led to believe that the car is fairly robust.  You
> > need the
> > window update ($5k+), but most should have had that done by now.  I
> > think
> > there has been a 456 buyer's guide, either in Forza or in Sports Car
> > Market,
> > worth checking out.
> >
> > Also, there is a wealth of knowledge over on the 456/550/575
> > subtopic on
> > FerrariChat.com.  There are also usually a few 456s for sale on
> > there (or
> > its ad section, FerrariAds.com), or if you're seriously looking, you
> > can
> > post a "wanted" ad and you'll find out about a bunch.
> >
> > Good luck, and keep us posted!
> >
> > Vty,
> >
> > --Dennis
> >
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