Ferrari Mailing List: Re: '09 ZR-1

[Charles Perry (charles]

The other side of that bill will be the apparently unstudied economic
consequences of requiring a 600% increase in the use of E85 by the same
period.

The diversion of corn production to E85 has profound consequences for
all aspects of the economy. Already this year, we have seen a 30%
increase in the cost of boarding my wife's horses because the corn-based
feed costs have skyrocketed and so has the cost of hay since many
producers in our area that were growing hay are re-tooling for corn.

Imagine the uproar of the economically disadvantaged when all the cheap
food that is largely based on corn syrup starts to jump dramatically.
Everything from cereal to soda will be subject to that jump. Even meat
will jump as corn feeds for cattle escalate in price. 

Over time I'm sure production will catch up, and maybe we can get rid of
some outdated subsidies to push more corn production, but in the short
term there will be some ugly unintended consequences of this fuel.

-- charles




-----Original Message-----
From: LarryT [mailto:l02turner [at] comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 6:42 PM
To: Charles Perry
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] '09 ZR-1

You said <<the EPA has "recalculated" their figures to give more
realistic (?) results>>

Naturally - they can't accept the data from their own tests - that would
be waaay to easy ;-)

The new CAFE has long term effects that are worrisome to me.  Rather
than let consumerism and Capitalism determine what kind of cars are
available for us to buy we now have the govt making decisions on what we
ultimately are offered.  To get to 35 CAFE cars will probably get
smaller with lighter panels and chassis - and when a major corp cannot
make their nubers will the govt say, "OK, better start shutting
production down and send all those union workers home."  Not a chance -
they'll get an extension -

So now we have auto design by govt - which started back in 1968 -
rememebr the confusion when we found those cool glass covers over the
XKE headlights were outlawed?  Removed a beautiful design feature for
queationable govt reasons - at least to me.

But the worst thing about the bill containing the 35 CAFE was the nearly
9000 pieces of Pork included from both sides of the aisle costing over
$4.5 Bil.  Naturally we need all that crap - ;-p

Merry Christmas -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil
Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] '09 ZR-1


> Just went to www.fueleconomy.gov to check out the mpg rating for the
'07
> Corvette.  Of course the EPA has "recalculated" their figures to give
more
> realistic (?) results.  But, be that as it may, here's what they say
about
> the '07 Vettes:
> Automatic 6 Liter            6 Speed 6 Liter
> 17 City 27 Highway        18 City 28 Highway
> AND WHAT FOLLOWS IS THE ESTIMATED NEW MPG:
> 15 City 25 Highway        16 City 26 Highway
> So, Hans is right on.  I know if you have the skip shift
(CAGS-computer
> assisted gear shift) you'll probably get lower mpg.
> Tom Reynolds
> Tulsa, OK
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hans E. Hansen" <FList [at] hanshansen.org>
> To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>
> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] '09 ZR-1
>
>
>> The Corvette happens to be one of the BETTER mpg cars in the GM
>> portfolio.
>>
>> A couple of years ago, AutoWeek did a real world gas mileage
>> comparison using 2 cars from each continent (ie - 2 Japan,
>> 2 Euro, etc.)  They had a Japanese hybrid and a Euro diesel
>> included.  For the American cars, they threw in a Corvette just
>> for giggles.  Guess what?  The Corvette beat many on the list
>> including the hybrid.
>>
>> I've personally gotten over 30mpg in them.
>>
>> Hans.
>>
>> On 12/23/07, LarryT <l02turner [at] comcast.net> wrote:
>> > With the CAFE legislation making its way toward the President that
> requires
>> > 35mpg by 2012 (?? that year may be wrong) the Vette may be in
trouble
>> > already - unless they can still sell them because the other cars in
the
>> > fleet exceed the reqmnts or perhaps a gas guzzler tax can be paid?
>> >
>> > I wonder what the ramifications for small car makers lie Ferrari
and
> Lambo
>> > will be?  Or will they be included with their parent company like
Audi
> in
>> > the case of Lambo?
>> >
>> > I know, Dennis, I shoud Google this question.  Fact is I prefer the
> lists
>> > opinion to Google &.Wiki., etc ;-p
>> >
>> > Merry Christmas --
>> >
>> > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
>> > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
>> > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
>> > PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
>> > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
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