Ferrari Mailing List: Re: New Indian Supercar [Ferrari Digest, Vol 18, Issue 18]

[Dave Handa (dave]

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Liu [mailto:bigheaddennis [at] gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:47 PM
To: dave [at] davehanda.com
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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] New Indian Supercar [Ferrari Digest, Vol 18, Issue
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Reynolds [mailto:kjtar [at] cox.net] 
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:27 PM
To: Dennis Liu
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] New Indian Supercar [Ferrari Digest, Vol 18, Issue
18]

<rant>
Thanks to GWB for putting the national driver's license (for those born
after 1965, I think) and taking away the liberties that our forefathers (and
mothers) fought for.  And the (Republican) congress for passing it.
Assholes.
As regards outsourcing, the "Big 3" wouldn't know a good idea if it sat on
their heads and farted.  Why didn't THEY come up with something small,
economical, and CHEAP?
I'll bet
the RNC and the candidates (and those running downstream) are just as happy
as pigs in slop about:
A. High gasoline (and coming soon to a furnace near you, high fuel oil
prices)
B. Increasing unemployment
C. Decreasing consumer confidance
D. The whole sub prime debacle
which leads to
E. A failing housing market, not only
    a) new construction
but also
    b) Existing home values, which is where most Americans, myself included,
have  their "nest egg" for the future.

He's basically thoughtless, shallow, and close-minded.  Sure, he listens to
other people and has a history of being able to bring divergent people (and
their opinions) together into a compromise, but then again, he HAS
(Marshallism) to.  :)
One more shot, before the Pooferator claims another victim.  We NEVER should
have gone into Iraq.  I said it all along (in other places) and now the
American public agrees, for various reasons. Oil.  Money.  And, he uses
"National Security" to take away freedoms our ancestors died for.
I think history will rate him as ineffectual, but what makes me mad is that
we've had the benefit of his ineptitude for 8 L O N G years.
'Nuf said, just my humble opinion, think Dan Quayle would have been better
suited as a president than this particular son of G.H.W.B.  And, for those
who can remember that far back, the announcement of Quayle as G.H.W.B.'s
runing mate brought VERY puzzled, and soon to be downright amazed, looks on
everyone, even those in the Republican party.
I mean, hell, G.W.B. is an exercise in futility and frustration.  George, if
you're going to insist on invading Iraq and build U.S. bases there but not
take over their oil, you're doing it the wrong way.  Crap, NUKE Saudi Arabia
and Iraq (well, we have a foothold there, so maybe we won't need to nuke
them), okay so nuke Iran for good measure, and Venezuala (take THAT, Hugo!)
and take over the damn countries and we can live fat and happy for a few
hundred more years.  We can go back to, what, maybe $1.50/gallon gas and
charge eveyone else (China, India) LOTS of money and we can pour all that
money into alternative energy research so that when it DOES run out we have
a way (or several) out of the mess.  But, if we're not going to do that,
then we HAVE to get our collective fat asses in gear and figure out how
we're gonna cope with the increasingly bleak future if we keep going the way
we are now.
</rant>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <BRIGANDBAR [at] aol.com>
To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] New Indian Supercar [Ferrari Digest, Vol 18, Issue
18]


> One more thing about this new creation from India. It might liven up the
> debate in the Michigan Republican Primary as the epitome of "outsourcing".
Of
> course the "Detroit Big Three" could just each purchase a variant of this
> pseudo-car licensed from TATA and then push them out to increase their
CAFE  fleet
> ratings.
>
> And there is one added "feature" that we all, perhaps, have missed. When
the
> new Federally approved, anti-terrorist National Identification Card (aka
the
> new, Patriot Act Conforming Driver's License document that we all will
soon
> be  compelled to obtain) is issued and the government then figures out
that by
> a  coding in the strip on the back of the license document that they can
> record the  identification, CAFE score, etc., of each individual
automobile that we
> drive  (we won't even mention adding to the coding when one purchases a
> firearm, but of  course this would just be for police officer safety as he
could
> put the license  into his card reader and learn if you own any firearms
that
> "might" be in the  vehicle involved in the stop) they will be able to
develop
> CAFE scores for each  individual driver. Then, of course, we could also
have
> "traffic fine civil  surcharges" similar to the ones enacted in VA
recently and
> those us who don't  have conforming individual CAFE scores may be ordered
to pay
> surcharged  penalties for each traffic offense. But then again, each of us
> could also  purchase one, or more if necessary, of these pseudo-cars,
either the
>  original TATA Indian version (which could, in the interests of minimizing
> outsourcing could have a factored reduction in CAFE benefits) or one of
the
> variants pushed out by the "Detroit Big Three" (no value reduction
required
> here, even for Chryslers since they were sold off by the former DCAG).
>
> As for the additional social engineering techniques that may be  developed
> from this field of micro-pseudocars, and their potential for becoming  a
> "jumping off point" for the "Greening of the World", well only the minds
of  our
> legislatures  and public officials will be the limit.  And when  such a
leader is
> blessed with the cash proceeds of something such as the Nobel  Prize that
> person could use these proceeds to buy up a fleet of micro-pseudocars  and
then
> use their CAFE, etc. points to compensate for the credits lost by $2k
electric
> bills in their residences, travel by personal jet aircraft, etc., and
thus
> avoid living in the Brave New World that they were instrumental in
creating.
>
> Living on the cutting edge of the "Brave New World" gets more exciting
every
> day.
>
> Dr. Steve
>
> 1964 Rolls  Royce Silver Cloud III...........1975 Pontiac GV Conv.
> 1980 MB  450SL...................................1982 RR Corniche
> 1985 MB 280 GE  G-Wagen..................1985 GMC Brigadier 20 Ton
> Winch/Wrecker
> 1988 Rolls  Royce Silver Spur................1990 Cadillac "Eagle" Hearse
> 1994 F-350  Powerstroke 4x4................1995 Ferrari 348 Spyder
> 1996 Bronco  .......................................2000 Lincoln Town Car
> 2004  Excursion...................................(+ Audrey's 2x MB's)
> and  a
> 1976 Fire  Truck................................... [HAHN- WARNER &
SWASEY-
> DUPLEX  DIVISION
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>                                                            w/a 100'  Tower
> System
>
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