Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Larry: Where Do You Live?

[LarryT (l02turner]

    That was a daydream thing - don't believe it would happen here in Va. but I 
don't doubt it might happen in NY or LA.   I don't believe they're ready to 
accept the idea of people carrying guns,   Also, you never know who you'll run 
into.  You're also right about the felony backgrounds of CCW holders - 
obviously pretty rare.   
    Anyway - you make a good point - my scenario is unlikely for the most part 
- 

    But my primary point (not made very well) was the magnetic strip *could* 
contain all kinds of private info.  Health problems for example - which a 
potential employer would like to get to see if you are a high risk.  Even of 
bigger concern is having DNA on the strip - now that they have mapped it pretty 
completely, they are finding all kinds of markers indicating all kinds of 
possible diseases in your future.

    It's the "Foot in the door" or the famous "Slippery Slope" things - once 
they get  a little they'll want a lot and will quote all kinds of "good things" 
that will come with further implementation.

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: red5hilser [at] aol.com 
  To: l02turner [at] comcast.net 
  Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com ; Red5hilser [at] aol.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:12 PM
  Subject: Larry: Where Do You Live?




  If your scenario about being handcuffed and laid over the hood of your car 
for only running a stop sign and having a CCW is to believed, you must live in 
either North Korea or on Mars. That might have worked in 1960's Mississippi and 
you were black, but it sure woudn't fly now. Present SOP now is if you're in a 
2 man (sorry, not PC) 2 person unit, you (the driver) exit your unit (I always 
unhooked the stap on my front-break holster) and go to right behind the 
driver's car, asking the driver to stay in his vehicle, roll down his window, 
and please show me is driver's license. While my partner stationed him/herself 
behind the rear passenger's rear tire as both my 2nd pair of eyes and as my 
backup.
  Two things caught my eye in your Scenario. #1 is that not too many folks with 
a CCW have felony warrants otstanding for them. That CCW would be yanked by the 
government quicker than you know what goes thru a goose, and #2 I'd pray that I 
was Black. My lawyers would file a multi-million dollar suit on your ass, your 
partner, and the city/county before you got off shift. Let's see. Racial 
profiling, excessive force, police brutality, assault and battery onder the 
color of authority, ... I'd make Rodney King look like a person who didn't know 
how much money he really could have recieved if he had only held out a little 
longer.

  Book 'em Dano, yer pal Bubba


Dr Steve wrote <<we won't even mention adding to the coding when one 
purchases a
firearm, >>

Or, if some of us citizens might be so audacious as to have a Concealed 
carry permit.  The police should obviously know when approaching a car with 
one of *those* people at the helm.

I can see it now, I roll thru a stop sign at some deserted intersection at 
2am - being able to see for miles I don;t come to a "full and complete 
stop" - blue lights instantly light up the night, a few seconds pass as my 
license plate is entered into a computer, electronic bits warmup, unseen 
things fly between the police car and a satillite thousands of miles away 
and back again - next thing I know 2 officers are approaching my car with 
guns drawn and demanding I exit the car and lay on the ground where I'm 
handcuffed, lifted up then laid over the hood of my car.

for rolling thru a stop sign in a wide open area with nothing coming for 
miles around.   On another subject, I was almost hit last night when I 
pulled out of our sub-division last night - unknown to me a small pickup was 
coming over the hill toward the intersection with only parking lights on - 
it was a black pickup BTW - amd I didn;t know he was there until I was out 
on the higheay and looked to see him on my bumper - still with only parking 
lights on.  And then I see a car approaching in the other lane without *any* 
headlights - could barely see him at all.  Must have been saving his lights 
for another time.  It was well after dark with all other vehicles having 
lights on.  *That* is what police should be going after.

Oh well, have a nice week -

Larry T 

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